Big Burke announcement

[VTKilarney]

If he took it there would have been a shaky video with techno music playing in the background.


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[Masskier]

Hotel Update,

 

[River19]

Hotel Update,

Facebook picture copy?

Lol


Would have been nice to see a green plate on the truck they captured in one of the pics in the gallery.....

The building is coming along......

 

[mbedle]

Facebook picture copy?

Lol


Would have been nice to see a green plate on the truck they captured in one of the pics in the gallery.....

The building is coming along......

Help me out here but what about a green plate on a truck they captured???

 

[halfpintvt]

Green plate meaning Vermont registration as opposed to an out of state vehicle. It would be nice if the majority of the EB5 $$ and jobs would benefit local people as opposed to out of state workers who travel from site to site.

 

[River19]

Green plate meaning Vermont registration as opposed to an out of state vehicle. It would be nice if the majority of the EB5 $$ and jobs would benefit local people as opposed to out of state workers who travel from site to site.

I figured I would put it on a tee and let someone take a swing.....you my friend hit it out of the park.

These are the subtle details that get overlooked by Q but make a difference to the locals.

Chinese funded, out of state built, to be primarily enjoyed by out of staters but you locals, you can certainly work at the front desk for $12/hr or clean the pool.......

Sure there are some green plates working there but not enough for many people's liking.

 

[thetrailboss]

I figured I would put it on a tee and let someone take a swing.....you my friend hit it out of the park.

These are the subtle details that get overlooked by Q but make a difference to the locals.

Chinese funded, out of state built, to be primarily enjoyed by out of staters but you locals, you can certainly work at the front desk for $12/hr or clean the pool.......

Sure there are some green plates working there but not enough for many people's liking.

Bingo. And a cookie-cutter building.


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[River19]

Now I don't want to 100% piss on the parade of the building getting closer to completion as we have always stated, process be damned, funding source be damned if the hotel is built and opened on time and there is snow it will be good for the area in general.

That being said, there are plenty of "if"s involved with any commercial project, this one in particular.....

 

[mbedle]

Am I missing something here. The original comment was regarding a single truck that appeared to not be registered in the state of Vermont. We are now all of a sudden talking about the majority of the worker on the project are coming from out of state? Did somebody go to the parking lot and count the number of vehicles that had Vermont plates on them? Who gives a rat's ass if some of the construction and trade guys are driving over from NH to build this hotel. Hell, if they are coming from farther away, that means they are spending money locally, which is a good thing. To me it just sounds like we are grabbing onto anything to nit picking this hotel, resort and the owners, until either it finally gets done or the place closes for good.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Green plate meaning Vermont registration as opposed to an out of state vehicle. It would be nice if the majority of the EB5 $$ and jobs would benefit local people as opposed to out of state workers

Not to mention, those are already existing "jobs", which I guarantee you will be counted in the "jobs created" fraud metric.

if they are coming from farther away, that means they are spending money locally, which is a good thing.

I see.

So 5 years from now, in 2020, those out of state workers are still going to travel on a daily basis to the northeast kingdom to fill up their gas tanks, buy lunches, and shop at all the local stores, right?

 

[River19]

Am I missing something here. The original comment was regarding a single truck that appeared to not be registered in the state of Vermont. We are now all of a sudden talking about the majority of the worker on the project are coming from out of state? Did somebody go to the parking lot and count the number of vehicles that had Vermont plates on them? Who gives a rat's ass if some of the construction and trade guys are driving over from NH to build this hotel. Hell, if they are coming from farther away, that means they are spending money locally, which is a good thing. To me it just sounds like we are grabbing onto anything to nit picking this hotel, resort and the owners, until either it finally gets done or the place closes for good.

Um, actually they aren't doing shit for the local economy after speaking with several local store and restaurant owners. No lunch business etc. Maybe they are buying gas.....so they are making the $0.02/gallon margin from them....awesome.

Local businesses have seen more traffic from the bridge work crews which are a fraction the size of the hotel crews.

but yes, we are nitpicking a bit here.....

 

[mbedle]

Not to mention, those are already existing "jobs", which I guarantee you will be counted in the "jobs created" fraud metric.



I see.

So 5 years from now, in 2020, those out of state workers are still going to travel on a daily basis to the northeast kingdom to fill up their gas tanks, buy lunches, and shop at all the local stores, right?

I'm pretty sure that the construction workers are not counted towards the 10 permanent full-time jobs needed to obtain the EB5 visas. And as far as the 5-years from now, would local workers (with no job after the hotel it built) still be buying local goods? Hopefully, at that point, additional tourisms with fill that void.

 

[mbedle]

Um, actually they aren't doing shit for the local economy after speaking with several local store and restaurant owners. No lunch business etc. Maybe they are buying gas.....so they are making the $0.02/gallon margin from them....awesome.

Local businesses have seen more traffic from the bridge work crews which are a fraction the size of the hotel crews.

but yes, we are nitpicking a bit here.....

Thanks for agreeing with the nitpicking thing. Bottom line is the goal of the EB-5 program is not to help depressed areas during the initial construction phases, but provide longterm economic growth to the area. Yes, most of the jobs will be hourly low wages, but what would you expect with this type of business. It's not like they are building an investment firm on the resort property.

 

[River19]

Thanks for agreeing with the nitpicking thing. Bottom line is the goal of the EB-5 program is not to help depressed areas during the initial construction phases, but provide longterm economic growth to the area. Yes, most of the jobs will be hourly low wages, but what would you expect with this type of business. It's not like they are building an investment firm on the resort property.

I had to agree with the nitpicking, I'm a lot of things but dishonest is not one of them,.......lol

 

[mbedle]

I had to agree with the nitpicking, I'm a lot of things but dishonest is not one of them,.......lol

LOL - its all good.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Thanks for agreeing with the nitpicking thing. Bottom line is the goal of the EB-5 program is not to help depressed areas during the initial construction phases, but provide longterm economic growth to the area. Yes, most of the jobs will be hourly low wages, but what would you expect with this type of business. It's not like they are building an investment firm on the resort property.

Step 1: Think about what you just said in the above paragraph.

Step 2: Think about how much money Jay Peak & co has received via EB-5.

Step 3: Do the math regarding how many "jobs" the money in Step 2 requires.

Step 4: Collect underpants

 

[mbedle]

Step 1: Think about what you just said in the above paragraph.

Step 2: Think about how much money Jay Peak & co has received via EB-5.

Step 3: Do the math regarding how many "jobs" the money in Step 2 requires.

Step 4: Collect underpants

LOL, great video - still not sure what you mean. Is it that they haven't generated or preserved any jobs since Jay Peak starting using EB-5 money to expand their operations? I don't know the answer to that. I would guess that is available in the I-829 forms submitted for conditional removal on the temp visas.

 

[thetrailboss]

I'm pretty sure that the construction workers are not counted towards the 10 permanent full-time jobs needed to obtain the EB5 visas. And as far as the 5-years from now, would local workers (with no job after the hotel it built) still be buying local goods? Hopefully, at that point, additional tourisms with fill that void.

Oh I'd be willing to bet that Jay is certainly counting those construction jobs. They say as much in their press conferences.

And Vermont is (hopefully) learning that having a tourism-based economy has its issues, not the least of which being very low paying jobs.

 

[mbedle]

Oh I'd be willing to bet that Jay is certainly counting those construction jobs. They say as much in their press conferences.

And Vermont is (hopefully) learning that having a tourism-based economy has its issues, not the least of which being very low paying jobs.

Just not sure how they can since they are not full-time jobs and they have to be around for 2 years and that has to occur 2 years after the condition visa is issues (which none have for the burke hotel investors). Again, I don't think most of these trade workers are on the hotel project for a full 2 years, and certainly not after the hotel is completed in December or the conditional visa are issued.

 

[Masskier]

I took these earlier today.