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River19

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Sad state of affairs.....which is basically the gist of these 645 pages or so..........

My wife an I used to enjoy going to the 'Rack after snowshoeing or snowmobiling etc. and have some beverages with Roger and the rest of the staff. Some really good memories of those times......hitting the rack at 3pm them just staying for dinner at the bar and walking away $200 lighter......but alas.....vacation weekend and the best bar/restaurant the mountain property can muster is closed.......how friggin' pathetic is that.
 

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I am wondering how much longer they can continue losing $$$. They have more than $275,000 in liens recorded against them plus what they owe Peak-CM. I don't see the hotel opening any time soon and even if it did open ski season is just about over.........could Chapter 13 be in looming in their future?
 

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The Burke Publick House
Foggy Goggle
Kingdom Tap Room
Schillings in NH
Pizza Man in Lyndonville basic grub and a beer

All good......

We hit up Shillings in Littleton on the way home. It was very good. We went to the Kingdom Tap Room last time we were in town. Also good, but more for the beer and atmosphere than dinner.

It is unfortunate this trip basically ruined Burke for my wife. She also was unhappy with Bromley and Mount Snow last month. She doesn't want to return to Vermont this year but I already booked Stowe for next weekend.
 

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at least at $teaux you'll be taking her to a proper and upscale resort. mount snow has their shit together i assume, but i also assume its a lot of park rat kids all over the place.
 

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at least at $teaux you'll be taking her to a proper and upscale resort. mount snow has their shit together i assume, but i also assume its a lot of park rat kids all over the place.

Mount Snow was way too crowded with limited terrain. And a primary complaint was quality of food vs price. $7/pint and something like $14 for a sandwich with chips out of a bag.

We're thinking of hitting Jay or Sugarbush next Sunday. Will be decided based on the status of the glades at Jay. Either way next weekend promises to be better. All of the northern Vermont mountains besides Burke have been reliable options in the past.
 

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I am wondering how much longer they can continue losing $$$. They have more than $275,000 in liens recorded against them plus what they owe Peak-CM. I don't see the hotel opening any time soon and even if it did open ski season is just about over.........could Chapter 13 be in looming in their future?
Who has recorded liens other than the hotel contractor?
 

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We hit up Shillings in Littleton on the way home. It was very good. We went to the Kingdom Tap Room last time we were in town. Also good, but more for the beer and atmosphere than dinner.

It is unfortunate this trip basically ruined Burke for my wife. She also was unhappy with Bromley and Mount Snow last month. She doesn't want to return to Vermont this year but I already booked Stowe for next weekend.
Glad you hit up Schillings.

What soured your wife on Burke? The lack of terrain available? It's definitely a very different mountain when there is sufficient natural snow.
 

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It started with the lack of terrain. After 4 runs she wanted to go in for a bit. What sent her over the edge was the lack of a full service restaurant in which to recuperate.

We went to Burke on Easter last year and it was great. Everything was opened and they had a lovely brunch buffet at the TamaraQ.
 

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What's really odd is that the Tamarack was open for a pass holder event until 10:30 AM. I don't understand why they wouldn't keep it open after that.
 
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Did you ask anyone why it was closed? I'd be interested to hear the rationale.

If they wanted to, they could make the Bear's Den a bit more "full service."Just expand the menu and have the items come out of the cafeteria kitchen. That's basically what Crotched does with the Onset Pub.
 

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None of these things alone are a good sign, all together....I smell trouble.....

I second VTK's question on the $275K in liens........seems very plausible but I'm curious who is filing against them other than Peak.....

I'm still thinking "Peak Hotel at Burke Mountain"........lol
 

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The only thing that is going to save them is cold and snow and hopefully a good spring season. If they management style doesn't change soon, I can't believe they'll survive another season, especially if they don't get that hotel open soon. Retail closed, restaurants closed... what's left to close besides the lifts and grooming?
 

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The only thing that is going to save them is cold and snow and hopefully a good spring season. If they management style doesn't change soon, I can't believe they'll survive another season, especially if they don't get that hotel open soon. Retail closed, restaurants closed... what's left to close besides the lifts and grooming?

Nothing really.......What is really separating Q from a shuttered operation? The lifts spin, occasional light snow making, groomers go through the motions and the Bear Den functions as a cafe. That is the entire Q operation......QHotel missed all key weekends and weeks of the ski season after being adamant they would be open on December 11th......over 2 months later it is looking further from opening rather than closer. Retail hasn't been open in a long time.......not that anyone was buying Qmerchandise anyways. Tamarack has gone through more identity crisis than Mylie Cyrus in the past couple years......and all of them sucked......a "sports bar" that wasn't open by 1pm on NFL Sundays.....really? How hard are you really trying?

This feels like the turds are swirling in the bowl and are about to go down the drain.............
 

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The following liens have been recorded against Q Burke/Burke 2000 LLC:

Vermont Log and Timber Builders $ 11,354.83
Blanc and Bailey $ 241,501.47
Winterset $ 54,285.43

All of the filings include interest and legal fees in addition to the recorded amount.
 

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It started with the lack of terrain. After 4 runs she wanted to go in for a bit. What sent her over the edge was the lack of a full service restaurant in which to recuperate.

We went to Burke on Easter last year and it was great. Everything was opened and they had a lovely brunch buffet at the TamaraQ.

Does Burke really not have a bar/restaurant open during ski operations? In other words, do they have a place where I could stop at 1130-1200pm & grab a burger & beer?
 

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Does Burke really not have a bar/restaurant open during ski operations? In other words, do they have a place where I could stop at 1130-1200pm & grab a burger & beer?

I asked the same question. The short answer is no, there is no full service restaurant. The cafeteria is the only place to get a burger. There is a mid-mountain bar but no burgers are served at the bar. And it does no good if your wife already has her boots off in the main lodge.
 

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Must be a new change this yr---I've always eaten lunch in the Tamarack when I've skied Burke.
I could maybe see it on a slow midweek day but the end of school vaca, start of NH vaca week.
That is unacceptable they weren't open.

Sled Pub at Pats was packed yesterday afternoon and I enjoyed my Harpoon IPA and Burger.
 
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