Big Burke announcement

[from_the_NEK]

Keep in mind I have never met Sarah and this is total speculation about why people are giving her so much grief.

A. I don't think she had actually been employed at Burke to develop a "cooperate Stockholm syndrome" mentality.

B. I know people that were well qualified for positions Ary was hiring for in the hotel that came out of the interview shaking their heads at the absurdity that surrounded the way Ary conducted the interview and handled answers to questions that he didn't think were "right". I'm sure other people have heard about Ary's hiring process and therefore approach information coming from people that were hired under that process with a very skeptical eye. Not that those remaining emloyees have some sort of nefarious motive but more that those people were hired to fit Ary's system. Maybe they can adapt to whatever system Leisure Services unfolds and then adapt again to whatever system a new ownership brings.

Sarah has been the vocal face of the leftover Q Jr regime. So far she has had no exposure to the Burke faithful other than the infamous blog and now now trying to plead her case for "employees that are still there" in social media. I think Sarah is worried she cannot adjust.

 

[thetrailboss]

Keep in mind I have never met Sarah and this is total speculation about why people are giving her so much grief.

A. I don't think she had actually been employed at Burke to develop a "cooperate Stockholm syndrome" mentality.

B. I know people that were well qualified for positions Ary was hiring for in the hotel that came out of the interview shaking their heads at the absurdity that surrounded the way Ary conducted the interview and handled answers to questions that he didn't think were "right". I'm sure other people have heard about Ary's hiring process and therefore approach information coming from people that were hired under that process with a very skeptical eye. Not that those remaining emloyees have some sort of nefarious motive but more that those people were hired to fit Ary's system. Maybe they can adapt to whatever system Leisure Services unfolds and then adapt again to whatever system a new ownership brings.

Sarah has been the vocal face of the leftover Q Jr regime. So far she has had no exposure to the Burke faithful other than the infamous blog and now now trying to plead her case for "employees that are still there" in social media. I think Sarah is worried she cannot adjust.

Very tough position for her.

 

[River19]

Very tough position for her.

Which is why I can't help but think sticking to more private channels and having some patience to let the process begin to run its course could have been more effective potentially.

Hey, everyone has different styles......it is what it is....I wish her the best of luck with things.

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

And you'd have to consider, that anyone that DOES buy the mountain/hotel, is going to put their own people in charge, and any existing employees will be subject to review(again) and possible replacement.

 

[thetrailboss]

Which is why I can't help but think sticking to more private channels and having some patience to let the process begin to run its course could have been more effective potentially.

Hey, everyone has different styles......it is what it is....I wish her the best of luck with things.

Exactly. I think that one poster yesterday tried to tell her that same thing.

 

[thetrailboss]

http://www.wcax.com/story/31810782/kingdom-con-sharp-contrast-to-eb-5-success-stories

Note how Sugarbush's co-owner talks about his thoughts on how there were a lot of red flags with the Jay projects.

 

[cdskier]

Seems everyone except for the state of VT saw the red flags on the Jay projects...

 

[chrisinvermont]

Seems everyone except for the state of VT saw the red flags on the Jay projects...

Our state officials were too busy seeing green

 

[thetrailboss]

Seems everyone except for the state of VT saw the red flags on the Jay projects...

That shoe will soon drop.


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[cdskier]

That shoe will soon drop.

I also liked the comments from Adam where he pretty much said the oversight from the state was superficial at best.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I also liked the comments from Adam where he pretty much said the oversight from the state was superficial at best.

It's much worse than that.

He said they did "visit" (a very calculated use of a verb IMO, denoting non-work), and without getting into specifics claimed whatever it was they did would have been incapable of "discovering" any fraud. Which is precisely what I suspected and argued for years.

Saying that financial analysis was not capable of discovering fraud, is a bit like saying that an aircraft manufacturing plant doesn't build wings. It kind of defeats the whole point.

The reality here, is that State of Vermont was doing ZERO financial analysis of EB-5, all the while lying to the public saying it was conducting strict financial analysis. Not only that, State of Vermont was saying their EB-5 was the SAFEST IN AMERICA due to the fact that the financial analysis and regulation was under government control. Ironically, State of Vermont was ALSO conducing and running a separate fraud, and this aspect of the story, at this point, is the least investigated and most untold part of this saga. Perhaps even the most interesting, frankly. Had a private financial company with fiduciary responsibilities acted in precisely the same manner as State of Vermont, legal proceedings would already be underway against them, and it's even possible someone could go to jail. Think anybody from State of Vermont or the government will even be investigated or see jail time from gross negligence and/or being complicit in looking the other way? LOL. Yeah, dont bet on it.

 

[thetrailboss]

I also liked the comments from Adam where he pretty much said the oversight from the state was superficial at best.

Just continue to watch that unfold. In other news, it was reported last night that the Governor's office told the press, "yeah, sure we will produce all those Emails from former staff members that may pertain to the EB5 projects. You just need to pay us $20,000 for them." So much for transparency.

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

Just continue to watch that unfold. In other news, it was reported last night that the Governor's office told the press, "yeah, sure we will produce all those Emails from former staff members that may pertain to the EB5 projects. You just need to pay us $20,000 for them." So much for transparency.

I like reading the comments at the end...


http://vtdigger.org/2016/05/04/shumlin-administration-to-charge-20000-for-former-staff-emails/?utm_source=VTDigger+Subscribers+and+Donors&utm_campaign=61ba90d124-Weekly+Update&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_dc3c5486db-61ba90d124-405602665

 

[thetrailboss]

The reality here, is that State of Vermont was doing ZERO financial analysis of EB-5, all the while lying to the public saying it was conducting strict financial analysis. Not only that, State of Vermont was saying their EB-5 was the SAFEST IN AMERICA due to the fact that the financial analysis and regulation was under government control.

Bingo. Just watch this and listen closely:

 

[cdskier]

It's much worse than that.

I did say "at best" :razz:

 

[JoeB-Z]

Bingo. Just watch this and listen closely:

The magic word from Shumlin is "audit". He is promising the investors that the State of Vermont will audit the EB-5 projects. The interesting thing is that, according to the receiver, the investors are mostly concerned about green cards. So if the state pols can get the federal government to hand out a stack of green cards the state's problem may go away.

 

[thetrailboss]

The magic word from Shumlin is "audit". He is promising the investors that the State of Vermont will audit the EB-5 projects. The interesting thing is that, according to the receiver, the investors are mostly concerned about green cards. So if the state pols can get the federal government to hand out a stack of green cards the state's problem may go away.

Not all of the investors share that position. I can think of at least one (Tony Sutton) who would disagree with you.

 

[River19]

I think the Shumlin/State portion of this is just starting to smolder.....kinda like the Q fraud was a couple years ago. The order to delete emails just days before what he knew was coming. The releasing of "a representative sample", which I admire the creativity in that "sell job".....might as well say "here are the emails that contain absolutely nothing incriminating whatsoever and have been sanitized for your consumption". The $20K "price tag" to recover public information.......love it. Where can I send my check?

Can I just bring a thumb drive and copy them Shummy? That way we can all save a few bucks.....

Shummy said, audit, but he didn't say when....

I'm guessing the the Pols were so pleased with the positive spin and story about investment, jobs, etc. that they were perfectly fine not to look a gift horse in the mouth until that horse started to leave steaming piles of crap every where.

I also find it interesting that I get the feeling the more they dig the more they won't be able to account for more than the $50M they believe Q fraud took. I cant remember where I saw it in the articles this week but I saw the "questionable" sum up to like $69M or something. Then again they already established they misappropriated $200M or so right?

Man, wouldn't it be nice to find a portion of that in Shummy's accounts?

 

[from_the_NEK]

From today's Cal-Rec article...
http://www.caledonianrecord.com/new...cle_24349655-1534-55bd-944a-84ad9548f044.html

Tim Tierney, executive director of Kingdom Trails and also president of the Burke Area Chamber of Commerce, on Tuesday said, “It has been very refreshing meeting and working with the team of Leisure Resorts, Steve Olson, Steve Scherer and Jamie Tatge. The last several years have been irrational in so many ways that it is very positive to converse with folks looking for the best possible solutions for Burke Mountain and the surrounding community.”

Tierney said, “My early sense is that these are capable individuals committed to operating a functional entity and already have quickly repaired many relationships. We will need their support and visa versa. They know full well it is a symbiotic relationship with the community and Burke Mountain. The change has been quite dramatic and uplifting.”

Good to hear bridges are being rebuilt.

 

[thetrailboss]

I think the Shumlin/State portion of this is just starting to smolder.....kinda like the Q fraud was a couple years ago. The order to delete emails just days before what he knew was coming. The releasing of "a representative sample", which I admire the creativity in that "sell job".....might as well say "here are the emails that contain absolutely nothing incriminating whatsoever and have been sanitized for your consumption". The $20K "price tag" to recover public information.......love it. Where can I send my check?

Can I just bring a thumb drive and copy them Shummy? That way we can all save a few bucks.....

Shummy said, audit, but he didn't say when....

I'm guessing the the Pols were so pleased with the positive spin and story about investment, jobs, etc. that they were perfectly fine not to look a gift horse in the mouth until that horse started to leave steaming piles of crap every where.

I also find it interesting that I get the feeling the more they dig the more they won't be able to account for more than the $50M they believe Q fraud took. I cant remember where I saw it in the articles this week but I saw the "questionable" sum up to like $69M or something. Then again they already established they misappropriated $200M or so right?

Man, wouldn't it be nice to find a portion of that in Shummy's accounts?

Good points. I saw that despite all the money raised they still need (only) $69,000,000 to COMPLETE the projects they had started.