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tim & I are on the way back from sugarbush. Right after I-89 junctions a/91 border patrol has the highway stopped and is asking people in every car if they're US citizens or not. Does this happen alot? Never seen this before.
 

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They used to do the same on the Northway (I-87) right after you got on from the Keene exit.

Our tax dollars at work. *shrug*
 

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I hit the same stop. I asked the guy if I was heading North or South. Seemed like an odd place to put up a boarder patrol stop. He just asked me where I was heading and how the Skiing was.
 

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tim & I are on the way back from sugarbush. Right after I-89 junctions a/91 border patrol has the highway stopped and is asking people in every car if they're US citizens or not. Does this happen alot? Never seen this before.

They do it at random times to check for illegal aliens and contraband. If they were smart, they'd set up above the 89/91 interchange because if someone "was" smuggling, they could easily get onto 89 and avoid the roadblock altogether.
 

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They do it at random times to check for illegal aliens and contraband. If they were smart, they'd set up above the 89/91 interchange because if someone "was" smuggling, they could easily get onto 89 and avoid the roadblock altogether.
If they were smart, they would do it even further north say above the I-93/I-91 split to catch every possible interstate option. Any one smuggling would obviously take the 93 option knowing that the checks happen below WRJ. Though I did see one stop point done in Lincoln, NH once, it is far less often than the one on 91 in question. In either case, it wouldn't take much recon to figure on that both the 91 and 93 checks can be easily avoided by Route 5 and Route 3 respectively. I hope they catch enough people to warrant both the cost and inconvenience to law abiding citizens.
 

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If they were smart, they would do it even further north say above the I-93/I-91 split to catch every possible interstate option. Any one smuggling would obviously take the 93 option knowing that the checks happen below WRJ. Though I did see one stop point done in Lincoln, NH once, it is far less often than the one on 91 in question. In either case, it wouldn't take much recon to figure on that both the 91 and 93 checks can be easily avoided by Route 5 and Route 3 respectively. I hope they catch enough people to warrant both the cost and inconvenience to law abiding citizens.

I don't understand why they're so far south to begin with. Are they not doing their job at border entries?
 

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Thats right gotta stop them Canadians from coming down here to take Jobs and advantage of our fantastic health care system.
 

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I don't understand why they're so far south to begin with. Are they not doing their job at border entries?
Puzzles me, too. Strange spot to set up. We've never had problems with border control in VT. In fact, only time I've dealt with border control was on the border-entering and exiting Canada (and they were friendly as could be).
 

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Of all of the customs agency's that I have come across, the U.S customs have to be the most rude and unfriendly that I have encountered, heck even the East German customs agents where more friendly.

I agree though that the Canadian customs agents are very curtious.
 

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I hit it yesterday too. Pretty much just "Are you a US citizen?" "Yes." "Thank you, have a good afternoon." First time I've seen it since I was coming home from Sugarbush in January of 2004.
 

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These stops have nothing to do with border security. They are starting do do this all over the U.S.. This is an exercise in "obedience training". Why are they doing these checkpoints so far away from the borders? Go to Youtube and type in "Operation Checkpoint". Pretty soon it will be "Papers please", but they won't say "please". "Papieren bitte" as in Germany 75 years ago. As an Honorably Discharged Combat Decorated Veteran, I find these developments disturbing. This is unconstitutional. Sorry. Ed.
 

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These stops have nothing to do with border security. They are starting do do this all over the U.S.. This is an exercise in "obedience training". Why are they doing these checkpoints so far away from the borders? Go to Youtube and type in "Operation Checkpoint". Pretty soon it will be "Papers please", but they won't say "please". "Papieren bitte" as in Germany 75 years ago. As an Honorably Discharged Combat Decorated Veteran, I find these developments disturbing. This is unconstitutional. Sorry. Ed.

I'm getting up in age so dementia may be sinking in, but didn't we used to have something called the constitution? And didn't we used to look down on such practices in places like Russia? And didn't JimG used to have a sense of humor? ;)
 
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These stops have nothing to do with border security. They are starting do do this all over the U.S.. This is an exercise in "obedience training". Why are they doing these checkpoints so far away from the borders? Go to Youtube and type in "Operation Checkpoint". Pretty soon it will be "Papers please", but they won't say "please". "Papieren bitte" as in Germany 75 years ago. As an Honorably Discharged Combat Decorated Veteran, I find these developments disturbing. This is unconstitutional. Sorry. Ed.

They've been doing this for years. It's nothing new. They're just hoping to round up illegal migrant workers. It is pretty lame to inconvenience everyone to try to catch one or two illegals. If they did their job correctly in the first place it wouldn't be necessary.
 

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Illegal migrant workers from Canada? They haven't been doing this for years. I have been skiing the northeast for over 35 years, and it did not happen years ago. Do NOT act like sheep and comply to this ILLEGAL harassment. These are stops without suspicion. "Are you an American citizen?". "Yes, sir, I am." "OK then, be on your way." They take your word on this? Yeah, right. People can lie. What is the difference in accents between an English speaking Canadian accent and a American one based on a "yes" answer. Pretty hard to tell isn't it? They pull over cars with U.S. license plates on them, don't they? Sixty miles away from the Canadian border is a LONG way from Canada for a "border checkpoint". Go to Youtube and look at "OPERATION CHECKPOINT." READ THE CONSTITUTION. A lot of Veterans (myself included) have given their lives and sanity to defend our rights, and people are scared to death to stand up for our rights in this country. "If people tolerate tyranny and despotism in any way, they deserve their slavery." Ben Franklin. Don't be a "Sheeple".
 

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Illegal migrant workers from Canada? They haven't been doing this for years. I have been skiing the northeast for over 35 years, and it did not happen years ago. Do NOT act like sheep and comply to this ILLEGAL harassment. These are stops without suspicion. "Are you an American citizen?". "Yes, sir, I am." "OK then, be on your way." They take your word on this? Yeah, right. People can lie. What is the difference in accents between an English speaking Canadian accent and a American one based on a "yes" answer. Pretty hard to tell isn't it? They pull over cars with U.S. license plates on them, don't they? Sixty miles away from the Canadian border is a LONG way from Canada for a "border checkpoint". Go to Youtube and look at "OPERATION CHECKPOINT." READ THE CONSTITUTION. A lot of Veterans (myself included) have given their lives and sanity to defend our rights, and people are scared to death to stand up for our rights in this country. "If people tolerate tyranny and despotism in any way, they deserve their slavery." Ben Franklin. Don't be a "Sheeple".

No not from Canada, although a fair amount do come through there from other countries. There are a large amount of migrant workers from Mexico and South America that work in NE throughout the year, wether it is in Egg farms, picking apples and blue berries and even crewing on some fishing boats. Either way this is a discussion for another forum. Please keep it to skiing around here.
 

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If they were smart...

If they were smart...

I love it how much we Internet folks think we're experts in everything. :lol: Trust me, I'm sure they have a reason for it. Probably to catch someone either coming south via 89 or 91.

Anyway, I got stopped in it too. I have no problem with it. Asked me if I was alone and if I was a citizen. I was on my way in less than 10 seconds.
 
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