border patrol

[riverc0il]

If I was involved in this where my car got searched because I had a Phish sticker on it, I'd be pretty BS. That is a violation of civil liberties in my opinion.

What ever, you pot smoking hippy. Sounds like you got an ax to grind.

:lol:

Sorry, thought this discussion needed some humor.

 

[loafer89]

When my wife and I where crossing the border in Coburn Gore, Maine several years ago, our car was searched and the border guard reached into my pocket and removed my wallet and proceeded to count how much money I had.

 

[Greg]

There is the statement, if you're going to commit a crime, you better be willing to pay the fine and do time. I do agree with that. I also feel however that an authority needs to have just cause for search. Driving on the highway, walking down the street etc....this should not happen.

I used to live near the Sunshine Daydream Camp in West Virginia, which regularly held small Woodstock style music festivals. Local authorities and the DEA would set up road blocks specifically looking to bust people for drugs going to these festivals. Granted, if you had nothing on you, you had nothing to worry about. That said, they were profiling, searching and arresting literally hundres of people. If I was involved in this where my car got searched because I had a Phish sticker on it, I'd be pretty BS. That is a violation of civil liberties in my opinion.

The border patrol south of the 89/91 junction was not looking for the guy who likes to get stoned after/during a day of skiing. Take a guess at how many of those guys they probably waved through this weekend. Let's keep it in perspective...

 

[ed-drum]

I don't read blogs on the internet. Does everything reported on the main steam media to be believed ? Why does one get the idea that I read the incursions that are eroding our rights are derived from reading the internet? Did anyone check out the video evidence on Youtube? Being in the military only reinforced my belief in what this country was founded upon. The Bill of Rights is not an opinion. It is a fact. The television media is a dying conveyance of reporting. Polls prove this. That is not an opinion. The Vietnam War Memorial is not an opinion. It is real.The WWII Memorial is not an opinion, it is real. The symbol of Fascism is the Fasces. What is it doing on the back of a Dime? What is the symbol of Fascism doing all over our government buildings? That is not an opinion, it is there. "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Einstein. Peace, Ed.

 

[Greg]

Why does one get the idea that I read the incursions that are eroding our rights are derived from reading the internet?

Did anyone check out the video evidence on Youtube?

Come again?! :blink:

Check into flexyourrights.org on the internet.

Say, what?

:lol:

 

[wa-loaf]

When my wife and I where crossing the border in Coburn Gore, Maine several years ago, our car was searched and the border guard reached into my pocket and removed my wallet and proceeded to count how much money I had.

The American or Canadian? Either way that's wrong. Is it possible to fit more than $10,000 in your wallet?

 

[deadheadskier]

What ever, you pot smoking hippy. Sounds like you got an ax to grind.

:lol:

Sorry, thought this discussion needed some humor.

See, profiling happens even here in AZ


Hippy? hmph

 

[loafer89]

The American or Canadian? Either way that's wrong. Is it possible to fit more than $10,000 in your wallet.

The U.S customs did this and I had maybe $500 in US currency.

I have had lots of fun with customs, my favorite was when I flew from Innsbruck to Venice. Upon arrival at the Venice airport I encountered a drug sniffing female German Shephard and that's where the fun began. I had been summer skiing and we store our bags at home where our male German Shepard liked to sleep.

I had the scent of our dog on my luggage and the snifflehund at the airport must have been in heat or something and followed me as I got my luggage. Anyway I got a nice trip to a dark room with a bunch of Italian customs agents who spoke not one word of English. After thoroughly ripping apart my luggage and finding no contraband, my parent's picked up one pissed off teenager.

 

[ed-drum]

Some people don't get it. Video evidence on the internet is not an opinion. It is not reading. Watching a tornado video on the internet is evidence. Watching border patrol stops on the internet video is not reading. Reading our rights on the internet or a library is not an opinion. Random drug stops by the police or DHS or any government agency was ruled unconstitutional and invasive. The point is, give them an inch and they'll take a mile. The government is here to help us? Instead of helping Katrina victims the government was searching houses, and people died. That is not a opinion from reading. There is video evidence. Ed.

 

[wa-loaf]

Some people don't get it. Video evidence on the internet is not an opinion. It is not reading. Watching a tornado video on the internet is evidence. Watching border patrol stops on the internet video is not reading. Reading our rights on the internet or a library is not an opinion. Random drug stops by the police or DHS or any government agency was ruled unconstitutional and invasive. The point is, give them an inch and they'll take a mile. The government is here to help us? Instead of helping Katrina victims the government was searching houses, and people died. That is not a opinion from reading. There is video evidence. Ed.

So where do you ski? What skis do you have in your quiver?

 

[mlctvt]

When my wife and I where crossing the border in Coburn Gore, Maine several years ago, our car was searched and the border guard reached into my pocket and removed my wallet and proceeded to count how much money I had.

I used to have an old VW camper bus that I restored to as new condition, you know the old rounded "hippy" vans. The members of my VW club told me I'd be searched coming back into the US from Canada and I was every single time. Yes I was profiled. They searched every nook and cranny and even brought a drug sniffing dog into it once. The Canadians never searched me going into Canada.

 

[loafer89]

The last time that we left the U.S was in January of 2003 to meet my brother at Mount Orford and I was happy that it was -25F outside when we got Back to Coburn Gore as the customs agents did no want to come out of their little hut.

 

[Greg]

Some people don't get it. Video evidence on the internet is not an opinion. It is not reading. Watching a tornado video on the internet is evidence. Watching border patrol stops on the internet video is not reading. Reading our rights on the internet or a library is not an opinion. Random drug stops by the police or DHS or any government agency was ruled unconstitutional and invasive. The point is, give them an inch and they'll take a mile. The government is here to help us? Instead of helping Katrina victims the government was searching houses, and people died. That is not a opinion from reading. There is video evidence. Ed.

There's video and photographic evidence of UFOs, Sasquatch and the Lock Ness Monster too. :lol:

Not that I'm that naive to believe the YouTube "evidence" is altered or staged in any way, but still. The YT vids I looked at seemed to portray the border patrol as men and women just doing there job, while the videographer was the one being antagonistic. I'm still trying to figure out what that proves...

 

[ed-drum]

Border Patrol

Okay, I give up! All right already! I live in the Catskills, so I mostly ski at Belleayre, (boring terrain but decent bumps), Plattekill, (best gnarly terrain in the Catskills), Windham (Ski Mag says it's the land of cell phones and all the black trails are blue), and I did go to Hunter this year again. I hate ski trips alone (my wife doesn't ski."You're all CRAZY!" ) so I'll go with friends anywhere else they want to. Skied when I was stationed in Germany. YOWZA!!!! I have Dynastar SC10's, Dynastar Speed 63's, Dynastar Speed SX's, and a brand new pair (!) of STRAIGHT (!?) Fischer RC4's, for bumps. Got a couple of pairs of Dalbellos, and was given as a present a BRAND NEW pair of Full Tilt Kamo boots from a good friend and former member of the Russian ski Team two weeks ago. Oh yeah, I skied at Felberg Germany.when the Force had me stationed there, so I wouldn't have to cross the border and get SEARCHED! The skis were the only things that were straight with me back then, get my drift? Ed.

 

[Greg]

Okay, I give up! All right already! I live in the Catskills, so I mostly ski at Belleayre, (boring terrain but decent bumps), Plattekill, (best gnarly terrain in the Catskills), Windham (Ski Mag says it's the land of cell phones and all the black trails are blue), and I did go to Hunter this year again. I hate ski trips alone (my wife doesn't ski."You're all CRAZY!" ) so I'll go with friends anywhere else they want to. Skied when I was stationed in Germany. YOWZA!!!! I have Dynastar SC10's, Dynastar Speed 63's, Dynastar Speed SX's, and a brand new pair (!) of STRAIGHT (!?) Fischer RC4's, for bumps. Got a couple of pairs of Dalbellos, and was given as a present a BRAND NEW pair of Full Tilt Kamo boots from a good friend and former member of the Russian ski Team two weeks ago. Oh yeah, I skied at Felberg Germany.when the Force had me stationed there, so I wouldn't have to cross the border and get SEARCHED! The skis were the only things that were straight with me back then, get my drift? Ed.

SWEET! Welcome to the boards! :beer:

 

[wa-loaf]

Oh yeah, I skied at Felberg Germany.when the Force had me stationed there, so I wouldn't have to cross the border and get SEARCHED! The skis were the only things that were straight with me back then, get my drift? Ed.

When were you in Germany? I used to drive from Munich to Austria every weekend and was never stopped. Although you pretty much got a free pass back then with a military ID. Checkpoint Charlie was another story . . . When I went back in 2001 right after 9-11 we had to buy a special pass to get into Austria.

 

[ed-drum]

Border patrol

I was in Ramstein Germany from 1981-1983. Participated in the Ramstein Bombing in 1981. Only needed military ID to cross the border back then, so when I went to France and Switzerland, no problem. Didn't have any ski extras with me, so no worries. Pretty scary though. After the Ramstein bomb, I did NOT go to GI clubs. They shot up the GI's in the Athens airport, blew up Frankfurt, and Berlin too when I was there. Friend of mine shot a couple of guys who stuck a gun barrel through the window while he was guarding the gate at Mannheim. Killed them dead. He lives down the road from me and has PTSD really bad. Worse than mine. SKIING KEEPS ME SANE! Ed.

 

[andyzee]

If you're not doing or possessing anything illegal than you have nothing to worry about.

Riiiiiiiiight?

Guess I have a lot to worry about.:beer: But being in this country illegally isn't one of those things.

 

[ed-drum]

They train dope sniffing dogs by getting them stoned and then feeding them. GEEZ! I have a set of the champion drug dog trading cards. "I just wanna be your dog." Iggy Pop. Ed.

 

[andyzee]

They train dope sniffing dogs by getting them stoned and them feeding them. GEEZ! I have a set of the champion drug dog trading cards. "I just wanna be your dog." Iggy Pop. Ed.

And with that line, I have to say "Glad you came back!"