Cannon Lover's Thread

[VTKilarney]

And what does my post say?Almost never and for FSC's private use.Here is the rest of that statement you conviently left out.

Please note: Baron's Run will be closed to the public this Thursday & Friday (1/28 & 1/29), as we'll be hosting a speed camp for up and coming ski racers from all over New England

It's listed on FSC's calendar as "FSC Speed Camp." If anyone is misrepresenting things it's you. FSC is the reason the trail is closed. Whether or not there are other kids attending, it's FSC that is the cause.

 

[SIKSKIER]

What a bunch of cry babies.Semantics?I think not.Facts.Read it.If you want to take apart my post than I will repost it for exactly what I said.That is not semantics.I changed nothing.And how the hell am I misrepresnting things?I posted exactly what was put on the website and not the only part that made my point like CB.I could give 2 shits about FSC and have never been a fan of them and the kids can sometimes piss me off.I'm more on your side than you think but the constant pissing and moaning and MISPRESENTING that I see here will get a response from me like it or not.

 

[Smellytele]

What a bunch of cry babies.Semantics?I think not.Facts.Read it.If you want to take apart my post than I will repost it for exactly what I said.That is not semantics.I changed nothing.And how the hell am I misrepresnting things?I posted exactly what was put on the website and not the only part that made my point like CB.I could give 2 shits about FSC and have never been a fan of them and the kids can sometimes piss me off.I'm more on your side than you think but the constant pissing and moaning and MISPRESENTING that I see here will get a response from me like it or not.

um this seems like crying also

 

[skiberg]

Complain if you will, but FSC is the sole reason the trail is even open at all. If it was not for FSC installing the snowmaking Mittersill Baron's would not even be open this year, period.

The camp is an annual event. In the past they have closed Avalanche, and Banshee for this event. Would you prefer them to close Avalanche and Banshee? I am surprised that most of you even care, as you all have made clear your disdain for the new Baron's. What do you care if they close the trail for a couple days, which you clearly don't like and that is only open due to the benevolence of FSC.

It is comical how I just keep reading people tying themselves into knots to somehow paint FSC as a villain. People wont even admit that buying a compressor that improves snowmaking for the whole mountain is good for everyone. The credibility of many of you as starting to get in the Threecey range.

 

[Puck it]

Complain if you will, but FSC is the sole reason the trail is even open at all. If it was not for FSC installing the snowmaking Mittersill Baron's would not even be open this year, period.

The camp is an annual event. In the past they have closed Avalanche, and Banshee for this event. Would you prefer them to close Avalanche and Banshee? I am surprised that most of you even care, as you all have made clear your disdain for the new Baron's. What do you care if they close the trail for a couple days, which you clearly don't like and that is only open due to the benevolence of FSC.

It is comical how I just keep reading people tying themselves into knots to somehow paint FSC as a villain. People wont even admit that buying a compressor that improves snowmaking for the whole mountain is good for everyone. The credibility of many of you as starting to get in the Threecey range.

I have no problem with the FSC. Things just need to be up front. The new compressor has not really shown any significant improvement in firepower in my opinion. So I would not say that is a real plus yet.

 

[witch hobble]

Complain if you will, but FSC is the sole reason the trail is even open at all. If it was not for FSC installing the snowmaking Mittersill Baron's would not even be open this year, period.

due to the benevolence of FSC.

As long as we are on the subject of semantics, I'd just like to point out that this does not qualify as benevolence. If you help an old lady across the street but expect a favor in return- not benevolent. Needs to be selfless to qualify.

 

[VTKilarney]

As with most things in life, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I am sure that FSC has provided support to Cannon over the years. No doubt for their own interests, but support nonetheless. I am also sure that quite a few people associated with FSC are arrogant pricks with an absurd sense of entitlement.

On any given day, the downside of FSC is probably much more noticeable than the upside. So I can understand why customers can get frustrated.

 

[Los]

I can't stand racer brats and their obnoxious elitist parents, FSC or otherwise. But I have to say, the idea of pushing them all onto to a single trail or two is very appealing if it gets them off the rest of the mountain.

Yesterday was a fantastic day at Cannon by the way. I rode up with a 20 year veteran who told me about "the Rocks" among other things. But when I asked her if she knew what the zoomer bar is, she said she didn't know. Was she telling the truth, or was she sworn to secrecy??

I'm going to find out one of these days....

 

[Cannonball]

What a bunch of cry babies.Semantics?I think not.Facts.Read it.If you want to take apart my post than I will repost it for exactly what I said.That is not semantics.I changed nothing.And how the hell am I misrepresnting things?I posted exactly what was put on the website and not the only part that made my point like CB.I could give 2 shits about FSC and have never been a fan of them and the kids can sometimes piss me off.I'm more on your side than you think but the constant pissing and moaning and MISPRESENTING that I see here will get a response from me like it or not.

Sorry I quoted you, and sorry I didn't post your whole quote. I wasn't calling you out, I was just using your quote for context in this long, wide-ranging thread. And I only cut it short because long quotes take up more space than needed.

My point...my ONLY point...was to show that Baron's will be closed to public use 2 days this week.

 

[Cannonball]

Complain if you will, but FSC is the sole reason the trail is even open at all. If it was not for FSC installing the snowmaking Mittersill Baron's would not even be open this year, period.

The camp is an annual event. In the past they have closed Avalanche, and Banshee for this event. Would you prefer them to close Avalanche and Banshee? I am surprised that most of you even care, as you all have made clear your disdain for the new Baron's. What do you care if they close the trail for a couple days, which you clearly don't like and that is only open due to the benevolence of FSC.

It is comical how I just keep reading people tying themselves into knots to somehow paint FSC as a villain. People wont even admit that buying a compressor that improves snowmaking for the whole mountain is good for everyone. The credibility of many of you as starting to get in the Threecey range.

That's a pretty ironic statement. Threecey's entire agenda was based on claiming that Cannon should be privatized. That private entities would do a better job with Cannon because they would invest private money in it. Looks like he's finally starting to get his wish.

 

[NYDB]

I have no dog in this fight, but have been reading this thread every day or so because of the internet 'drama'.

It seems to me that certain posters want to give FSC a lot of credit for making snow on trails they exclusively use (for the most part).

Seems more like Quid pro quo than benevolence. We'll pay for upgrading the snowmaking if you make snow on our private trails. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[MadMadWorld]

I have no dog in this fight, but have been reading this thread every day or so because of the internet 'drama'.

It seems to me that certain posters want to give FSC a lot of credit for making snow on trails they exclusively use (for the most part).

Seems more like Quid pro quo than benevolence. We'll pay for upgrading the snowmaking if you make snow on our private trails. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

https://youtu.be/SuWoVuG79Vo

 

[thetrailboss]

I've been jumping in and out of this thread, but if folks are upset trust me it could be WORSE. Just look up the road at the mountain formerly known as Burke. The ski academy and skiers up there would LOVE to have the dilemma that you all have. We'd gladly trade.

 

[SLoMo]

I've been jumping in and out of this thread, but if folks are upset trust me it could be WORSE. Just look up the road at the mountain formerly known as Burke. The ski academy and skiers up there would LOVE to have the dilemma that you all have. We'd gladly trade.

+1

Honestly, I've had nothing but great experiences with FSC kids. Both at Cannon, and in another kind of facility where I've taught quite a few of them. I've found them to be smart, well mannered, and just with a lot of athletic energy/exuberance. Their talent is something to be respected. More importantly, they are the future of Cannon, complaining about others on this forum in 10 or 15 years. We've all been there, I was a race kid too, so let it go, and ski your own line.

 

[freeski]

I saw them doing the speed training on Avalanche one day. It was pretty cool. I was talking to a coach and he said they can hit 70 MPH, almost Tuna Speed. I'd Think Avalanche is a better trail for it.

 

[SIKSKIER]

I saw them doing the speed training on Avalanche one day. It was pretty cool. I was talking to a coach and he said they can hit 70 MPH, almost Tuna Speed. I'd Think Avalanche is a better trail for it.

Yup,30+ years ago we had a Franconia cop set up on the bottom of Avalanche with a radar gun and a lot of us were in the low 70's.You had to start at the top way above the entrance traverse from Zoomer and scare the living crap out of yourself as you hit that drop but wow,what a thrill.

 

[SIKSKIER]

Sorry I quoted you, and sorry I didn't post your whole quote. I wasn't calling you out, I was just using your quote for context in this long, wide-ranging thread. And I only cut it short because long quotes take up more space than needed.

My point...my ONLY point...was to show that Baron's will be closed to public use 2 days this week.

No worries CB.I'm a little baffled at getting flamed thats all.

 

[skiberg]

I also have found the vast majority of FSC kids to be well mannered kids who understand the hill and there place on it. They grow to love Cannon and many eventually become the de facto caretakers of the hill.
They end up knowing all the lines and understand the responsibility that comes with skiing them, maintaining them and trying not make the general public aware of them.
For the amount of time they are on the hill and the number of skiers they have, there are hardly ever any issues.


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[bootladder]

Baron's was the run of the day yesterday. I didn't see anyone else on it while I was over there and the snow was rippin!

 

[iSki]

also while you're bashing you may consider thanking one of those FSC prick for creating and maintaining some of those unnamed lines we enjoy skiing