Cannon Lover's Thread

[Edd]

Regarding table behavior: I was at Crotched today and I love that they seem hardcore about no bags at the tables upstairs. When I read their signs I think "f*** yes".

This wouldn't work at all places due to layouts, but Crotched has this nailed exactly right.

 

[MadMadWorld]

So you Ski at Wildcat? That's might be why you don't know FSC doesn't ski out of Peabody. That might be a Wildcat issue but the mess thing and hogging tables is not an issue with FSC. Other things you list might be debatable.

My issue with the whole Mtitersill thing is people keep claiming it only helps FSC. It does not only help them. My god they improved snowmaking capacity for the whole hill by something like 60%.

I think people are conflating there disdain for the changing of Mittersill with FSC. Unfortunately that was coming anyhow. FSC did not even begin talking to the state until after Mittersill was already back in the fold. JD was angling to put snowmaking there the whole time. Snowmaking was always going back in at Mittersill. If you don't believe it ask him. FSC just gave him the capital to make it happen and the ability to sell it to the state. FSC got a quid pro quo for coming up with the money; very limited guarantees for training time. That's it.

I've skied Wildcat for many years and I've seen very few issues with the racers there. They are a million times better than Cannon

 

[deadheadskier]

Skiberg, I experienced this behavior in Peabody lodge. It happens in all ski lodges, not just Cannon and FSC.

If you don't see the behavior of race kids at all ski hills as an issue, you are either incredibly naive or complicit in the behavior. It's a problem that people like yourself should be working to fix, not deny and say, "it's just kids being kids" or "everybody does it."

Playing football and lacrosse growing up we wore suits to all the games. If we misbehaved it meant reduced playing time or extra wind sprints at practice. There was accountability. It should be the same with race teams.

 

[Smellytele]

So you Ski at Wildcat? That's might be why you don't know FSC doesn't ski out of Peabody. That might be a Wildcat issue but the mess thing and hogging tables is not an issue with FSC. Other things you list might be debatable.

Early season they most definitely ski out of Peabody before zoomer lift is open

 

[witch hobble]

I think people are conflating there disdain for the changing of Mittersill with FSC. Unfortunately that was coming anyhow. FSC did not even begin talking to the state until after Mittersill was already back in the fold. JD was angling to put snowmaking there the whole time. Snowmaking was always going back in at Mittersill. If you don't believe it ask him. FSC just gave him the capital to make it happen and the ability to sell it to the state. FSC got a quid pro quo for coming up with the money; very limited guarantees for training time. That's it.

They got it homologated and turned into a us ski team training site. Could you please just accept that this was not benevolence. It does not reflect poorly on you or your club. You wanted something and found a way to get it. Good for you.....we'll see how it plays out for the general public.

 

[steamboat1]

 

[deadheadskier]

Is this what you do when you complain about the KMS kids taking up the Highline trail at K?

You're no stranger to similar complaints chief

 

[steamboat1]

Is this what you do when you complain about the KMS kids taking up the Highline trail at K?

Nope it's what you're doing right now.

 

[VTKilarney]

Nope it's what you're doing right now.

Great comeback.


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[Los]

I was listening until you made this absurd comment. Then I discounted everything you had said.

+1

And +1 to all of deadhead's posts

 

[dlague]

I can't speak for Cannon , but at Wildcat and Attitash DHS is spot on. I did some skiing in VT and it was exactly the same. Maybe Cannon is an Island in the way race kids and race parents present themselves.

It is not! The skis scattered about are Head, Blizzard and Fischer skis and a few other non race skis too. Prior to Gary's being open, they would use Gremlin and people skiing it as a course and gates. I think much of what DHS posted it fairly accurate.

As far as Ernie's - well we know some ski racing families and they like Cannonball pub as much as everyone who visits since that is the only bar there. And when the kids are not racing they are not isolated to Ernie's or Gary's.

Personally I think that having FSC over on Mittersill side will do two things - one it will benefit those skiing on the other side, two it will cause the race teams to ski Mittersill because it would take to much time to go to the other side and as a result track out Mittersill faster. The skiers that race will think that Mittersill is their private island.

 

[Cannonball]

As for the complaints about racers. The issues with the lodge simply don't happen. FSC is at Ernie's for almost the entire year. They are only at Peabody in the very early season and last year were not there at all. When they are at Ernie's its in the basement only. Hog a table for the whole day??? Not FSC, they are all hardcore skiers. They don't sit in the lodge and if they do its at Ernie's. Making a mess??? They eat at Ernie's.

Ernie's is like Mittersill snowmaking. Originally funded by FSC, now supported by Cannon/State funds, and while 'technically' not exclusive for FSC it certainly is dominated by them.

 

[Puck it]

Ernie's is like Mittersill snowmaking. Originally funded by FSC, now supported by Cannon/State funds, and while 'technically' not exclusive for FSC it certainly is dominated by them.

Can you a take piss there or behind it?

 

[iSki]

So what's the problem. Yes FSC did fund the construction of Ernie's. FSC members also pay for passes as do other paying customers. Why shouldn't they utilize Ernie's?Holderness also uses that lodge as do local high school race team. That's how mountain ops wants it as far as I know.

 

[VTKilarney]

Well, if there is one thing that this thread has taught me it's that people affiliated with FSC are very open minded. :-o

 

[fcksummer]

Can you a take piss there or behind it?

I was told you need a fancy red jacket with a cross on it to do that. Everyone else should pee on a tree or in their pants.

 

[Puck it]

I was told you need a fancy red jacket with a cross on it to do that. Everyone else should pee on a tree or in their pants.

I heard you are trouble. Two week ban from Zoomer Bar may be in order. Oh wait. Never mind.

 

[dlague]

I heard you are trouble. Two week ban from Zoomer Bar may be in order. Oh wait. Never mind.

Sounds like the FJ part of Zoomer Bar will be in MA for a while! We will carry the torch!

 

[Puck it]

Sounds like the FJ part of Zoomer Bar will be in MA for a while! We will carry the torch!

i may make an appearance this weekend if people are skiing Sunday.

 

[xwhaler]

i may make an appearance this weekend if people are skiing Sunday.

Tending bar and feeding the crew fancy appetizers in case they get hungry?!