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ChatGPT has no respect for East Coast resorts

abc

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Apparently, the unofficialnetwork didn’t read the New York Times article on how a lawyer got into trouble with chatGPT.

It exposed what chat GPT is and is not.

You don’t go to a heart specialist for a bladder problem. Even though both are doctors. But a 5 year old can’t tell the difference yet.
 

KustyTheKlown

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chatGPT wasn't wrong here. it was given the simple prompt 'what are the best ski resorts in the united states'. it produced a list that, while debatable, is clearly a list of large major popular ski resorts. i don't know why you would think this prompt would yield anything at all east of the rockies.

as the output of a very basic prompt, this is a fine response that even acknowledges subjectivity and preferences.

if you care so much, ask it about eastern skiing

"
The United States is home to numerous excellent ski resorts, each with its unique features and offerings. While opinions on the “best” ski resorts may vary depending on individual preferences, here are ten renowned ski resorts in the United States:

  1. Vail Mountain Resort (Colorado): Vail is one of the largest ski resorts in the world, known for its expansive terrain, world-class facilities, and charming alpine village.
  2. Aspen Snowmass (Colorado): Comprised of four mountains (Snowmass, Aspen Mountain, Aspen Highlands, and Buttermilk), Aspen Snowmass offers diverse skiing experiences, upscale amenities, and a vibrant après-ski scene.
  3. Jackson Hole Mountain Resort (Wyoming): Renowned for its challenging terrain and stunning natural beauty, Jackson Hole attracts advanced skiers and snowboarders seeking steep slopes and breathtaking views.
  4. Park City Mountain Resort (Utah): Park City offers an extensive ski area, well-groomed trails, and a historic mining town with a vibrant atmosphere. It hosted the 2002 Winter Olympics.
  5. Breckenridge Ski Resort (Colorado): With its charming town, high altitude, and varied terrain, Breckenridge is popular among skiers and snowboarders of all levels. It also offers a lively après-ski scene.
  6. Heavenly Mountain Resort (California/Nevada): Situated on Lake Tahoe’s southern shore, Heavenly boasts stunning lake views and a vast ski area spanning two states. It offers a mix of groomed trails and challenging slopes.
  7. Sun Valley Resort (Idaho): Known as America’s first destination ski resort, Sun Valley offers well-groomed slopes, consistent snow, and a sense of timeless elegance.
  8. Telluride Ski Resort (Colorado): Nestled in the San Juan Mountains, Telluride features awe-inspiring scenery, challenging terrain, and a charming town with a laid-back atmosphere.
  9. Big Sky Resort (Montana): Big Sky offers vast terrain, uncrowded slopes, and some of the most consistent snow conditions in the country. It is particularly appealing to advanced skiers and powder enthusiasts.
  10. Taos Ski Valley (New Mexico): Taos Ski Valley combines Southwestern charm with world-class skiing. It is known for its challenging terrain, deep powder, and a welcoming community.
These ski resorts offer a range of experiences and cater to different skill levels, so it’s important to consider your preferences and skiing abilities when choosing the best one for you."
 

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it disses smuggs, magic, loaf and mad river, but its a fine output when you ask about the east -

"what are the most challenging and high quality ski areas or ski resorts in new england and new york?




New England and New York have several challenging and high-quality ski areas and resorts. Here are some of the top options in the region:
  1. Stowe Mountain Resort (Vermont): Stowe is renowned for its challenging terrain and picturesque setting. With an average annual snowfall of over 300 inches, it offers a variety of steep trails and glades, including the famous "Front Four" - National, Liftline, Starr, and Goat.
  2. Killington Resort (Vermont): Known as the "Beast of the East," Killington is the largest ski area in the eastern United States. It boasts a diverse range of terrain, including steep mogul runs, tree skiing, and wide groomed trails. The resort's advanced slopes, such as Outer Limits and Superstar, provide thrilling experiences for expert skiers.
  3. Sugarbush Resort (Vermont): Sugarbush offers a challenging and varied terrain across its two mountains, Lincoln Peak and Mt. Ellen. The resort is known for its extensive glade skiing and challenging expert trails like Castlerock and Rumble.
  4. Jay Peak Resort (Vermont): Jay Peak is renowned for its abundant snowfall and challenging terrain. It has some of the steepest tree skiing in the region, along with a vast array of glades and mogul runs. The resort's "Face Chutes" and "The Jet" are popular with advanced skiers seeking a thrill.
  5. Sunday River (Maine): With eight interconnected mountain peaks, Sunday River offers a wide range of terrain for skiers of all levels. The resort is particularly known for its challenging glades, steep trails like White Heat, and the advanced terrain park.
  6. Whiteface Mountain (New York): Located in the Adirondack Mountains, Whiteface Mountain is known for its challenging and rugged terrain. The resort's Olympic history adds to its appeal, and its most famous trail, "The Slides," offers a steep and thrilling experience for advanced skiers.
  7. Cannon Mountain (New Hampshire): Cannon Mountain is renowned for its challenging terrain and natural snow conditions. It features a variety of steep trails, including the legendary "Tramway" and "Mittersill" trails, which provide a thrilling experience for advanced skiers.
These ski areas and resorts offer a combination of challenging slopes, varied terrain, and excellent snow conditions, making them popular choices for both local and visiting skiers in New England and New York."
 

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Apparently, the unofficialnetwork didn’t read the New York Times article on how a lawyer got into trouble with chatGPT.

It exposed what chat GPT is and is not.

You don’t go to a heart specialist for a bladder problem. Even though both are doctors. But a 5 year old can’t tell the difference yet.

oh i didnt realize unofficial networks could commit malpractice posting crappy journalism. i would have thought they would have been disbarred many years ago if so
 

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Disses Utah as well except park city which is the last of the big Utah areas I would ski.
What was the criteria used by the chatgpt to measure “best”?
 

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Disses Utah as well except park city which is the last of the big Utah areas I would ski.
What was the criteria used by the chatgpt to measure “best”?

i presume its crawling thru all sorts of best of lists put out by major publications like big newspapers and ski/skiing and forbes etc. which is right in line with its output. its not crawling the bar at the mangy moose for this info.
 

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Disses Utah as well except park city which is the last of the big Utah areas I would ski.
What was the criteria used by the chatgpt to measure “best”?
Its own. Not yours.

After all, you didn’t specify what counts as best “for YOU”

If you ask 5 different skiers their “10 best”, you’ll get 10 different list. None are wrong. They’re all “right” for the answerer.

I get that a lot. “Where should I go skiing?” How the hell do I know what you like? Sure, I’ll advise a beginner to go to Taos!;)
 
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it disses smuggs, magic, loaf and mad river, but its a fine output when you ask about the east -

"what are the most challenging and high quality ski areas or ski resorts in new england and new york?




New England and New York have several challenging and high-quality ski areas and resorts. Here are some of the top options in the region:
  1. Stowe Mountain Resort (Vermont): Stowe is renowned for its challenging terrain and picturesque setting. With an average annual snowfall of over 300 inches, it offers a variety of steep trails and glades, including the famous "Front Four" - National, Liftline, Starr, and Goat.
  2. Killington Resort (Vermont): Known as the "Beast of the East," Killington is the largest ski area in the eastern United States. It boasts a diverse range of terrain, including steep mogul runs, tree skiing, and wide groomed trails. The resort's advanced slopes, such as Outer Limits and Superstar, provide thrilling experiences for expert skiers.
  3. Sugarbush Resort (Vermont): Sugarbush offers a challenging and varied terrain across its two mountains, Lincoln Peak and Mt. Ellen. The resort is known for its extensive glade skiing and challenging expert trails like Castlerock and Rumble.
  4. Jay Peak Resort (Vermont): Jay Peak is renowned for its abundant snowfall and challenging terrain. It has some of the steepest tree skiing in the region, along with a vast array of glades and mogul runs. The resort's "Face Chutes" and "The Jet" are popular with advanced skiers seeking a thrill.
  5. Sunday River (Maine): With eight interconnected mountain peaks, Sunday River offers a wide range of terrain for skiers of all levels. The resort is particularly known for its challenging glades, steep trails like White Heat, and the advanced terrain park.
  6. Whiteface Mountain (New York): Located in the Adirondack Mountains, Whiteface Mountain is known for its challenging and rugged terrain. The resort's Olympic history adds to its appeal, and its most famous trail, "The Slides," offers a steep and thrilling experience for advanced skiers.
  7. Cannon Mountain (New Hampshire): Cannon Mountain is renowned for its challenging terrain and natural snow conditions. It features a variety of steep trails, including the legendary "Tramway" and "Mittersill" trails, which provide a thrilling experience for advanced skiers.
These ski areas and resorts offer a combination of challenging slopes, varied terrain, and excellent snow conditions, making them popular choices for both local and visiting skiers in New England and New York."
A few quibbles like “Tramway” at Cannon instead of “DJs Tramline“ and overuse of “thrilling” but overall that’s pretty good output IMO.
 

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If I ask for “challenging” instead of “best” we do get one east coast entry in top 10:

“Describe the ten most challenging ski areas in the United States”

Certainly! Here's a description of the ten ski areas known for their challenging terrain in the United States:

1. Jackson Hole Mountain Resort, Wyoming: Jackson Hole is renowned for its steep and rugged terrain. It offers legendary runs like Corbet's Couloir, which requires a daring drop-in. The resort has challenging bowls, glades, and cliffs, making it a favorite for advanced skiers.

2. Snowbird, Utah: Snowbird is famous for its challenging and diverse terrain. It features steep bowls, narrow chutes, and cliffs, providing an adrenaline-pumping experience. The resort receives abundant snowfall, creating excellent conditions for advanced skiers.

3. Squaw Valley/Alpine Meadows, California: These neighboring resorts offer a wide range of challenging terrain. Squaw Valley hosted the 1960 Winter Olympics and boasts steep chutes, deep bowls, and ungroomed runs. Alpine Meadows features expert-only areas and thrilling tree skiing.

4. Telluride Ski Resort, Colorado: Nestled in the San Juan Mountains, Telluride offers challenging terrain with steep slopes, narrow chutes, and technical runs. Its hike-to terrain, such as the iconic Black Iron Bowl, provides an extra level of challenge for expert skiers.

5. Crested Butte Mountain Resort, Colorado: Known as the "Wildflower Capital of Colorado," Crested Butte offers a variety of challenging terrain. It has steep bowls, ungroomed trails, and extensive tree skiing. The resort is a mecca for advanced skiers seeking adventure.

6. Big Sky Resort, Montana: Big Sky is known for its vast and challenging terrain. The resort offers steep chutes, wide-open bowls, and expert tree skiing. With abundant snowfall and a range of challenging runs, it provides thrilling experiences for advanced skiers.

7. Taos Ski Valley, New Mexico: Taos Ski Valley is renowned for its challenging and diverse terrain. It features steep slopes, narrow chutes, and exciting tree skiing. The highlight is the iconic Kachina Peak, accessible through a hike, offering breathtaking descents.

8. Aspen Highlands, Colorado: Aspen Highlands caters to advanced skiers with its challenging terrain. It has steep runs, mogul fields, and the famous Highland Bowl, where skiers can access thrilling backcountry-like terrain for a demanding adventure.

9. Kirkwood Mountain Resort, California: Kirkwood is known for its rugged and challenging terrain. It offers steep slopes, narrow chutes, and ungroomed areas. The resort's high elevation and plentiful snowfall provide excellent conditions for advanced skiers.

10. Stowe Mountain Resort, Vermont: Stowe is a classic New England ski destination with challenging terrain. It features steep runs, glades, and mogul fields. The resort's Front Four trails, including the infamous "Goat," provide a challenging experience for expert skiers.

These ski areas are renowned for their difficult terrain, attracting experienced skiers seeking a thrilling and demanding skiing experience. Each resort offers unique features and challenges, ensuring plenty of excitement on the slopes.
 

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Roxbury ny west Catskills best hills in ny when it snow even though I don't ski anymore glad everyone here still has the passion
 

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snowbrains and unofficial networks compete for the worst 'journalism' in skiing. the shit they allow to be published is atrocious. zero editing whatsoever. often just reposting social media bullshit. usually lots of factual errors, always poor writing. almost always writing in the first person - don't do that unless you are hunter fucking thompson. horrible websites.
 

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snowbrains and unofficial networks compete for the worst 'journalism' in skiing. the shit they allow to be published is atrocious. zero editing whatsoever. often just reposting social media bullshit. usually lots of factual errors, always poor writing. almost always writing in the first person - don't do that unless you are hunter fucking thompson. horrible websites.
They make Skiology look like the pinnacle of journalism. I get better ski content from Reddit forums and social media feeds than those sites. When it comes to news, I read Liftblog, Storm Skiing, and NE Ski Industry. Only three sites you really need.
 

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snowbrains and unofficial networks compete for the worst 'journalism' in skiing. the shit they allow to be published is atrocious. zero editing whatsoever. often just reposting social media bullshit. usually lots of factual errors, always poor writing. almost always writing in the first person - don't do that unless you are hunter fucking thompson. horrible websites.
Often it seems like the only real truth in the vast majority of their stories, and only if they post pictures as well as they almost always do, is that there was someone sliding on snow somewhere on whatever given day the picture was taken.. Heck, a good chunk of the time the picture likely wasnt even taken at the resort/location they're talking about in the article. Their content creators certainly are very good at showing their ignorance of the topic they're writing about
 
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