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College Hoops: My Alma Mater enters the top 25!!!
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4aprice
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Way to go Ivies. It's always nice to see real student athletes get recognized.
Alex
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
Alex
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
ta&idaho
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That's cool to see, and well deserved. Cornell's legit this year.
My sister played at Dartmouth and almost knocked off third-seeded Rutgers in the first round of the tournament her senior year (2006). Would love to see Cornell shock somebody come March...
My sister played at Dartmouth and almost knocked off third-seeded Rutgers in the first round of the tournament her senior year (2006). Would love to see Cornell shock somebody come March...
jaywbigred
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Makes for a nice story for sure, no scholarships, kids that actually have to go to class, etc... competing against the backdrop of what is a sometimes sad college sports world when it comes to the big sports (bball and fball).
Right now they are projected as low as a 10 seed! Winning a game or even two might be quite doable.
Right now they are projected as low as a 10 seed! Winning a game or even two might be quite doable.
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St. Bear
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I honestly don't mean to throw a wet blanket on this, but you're fooling yourself if you think that highly coveted athletes at Ivies don't get some form of "special aid". I went to IC, and interacted alot with Cornell's wrestling/football teams. While I'm sure it's still a thousand times better than a state school, there were a few kids that had no business being in an Ivy League school.
mondeo
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And basketball and football are sports they aren't strong in.
You think Matt_Moulson didn't get a free ride for "academics?"
jaywbigred
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Mondeo/St. Bear, I have very strong opinions about this, so don't take this rant the wrong way, but....
I don't think I'm fooling myself about anything...first had experience dictates otherwise. I was in class with multiple hockey and football players, and every one that I ran across was at least middle of the class, imo, in terms of intelligence.
Friends of mine went on to have hockey players and lacrosse players as students when they were TA'ing, and reported the same surprise.
Two of the best hockey players when I was in school were twins, Matt and Mark McRae. After minor league careers that got them close to but not into the NHL, they both went to Yale Medical school. One of them is a plastic surgery resident with one of my best friends at NYU now. Google search indicates the other is also a plastic surgery resident at the Univ. of Toronto.
I also went to high school with 2 professional athletes: George Parros (Anaheim Mighty Ducks) and Troy Murphy (Indiana Pacers). George went on to Princeton, and I can tell you that he was extremely intelligent and deserved to go there. I had AP classes with him, and am pretty sure he had one of the highest SAT scores in our class. Troy was in my math class for two years, and, though he had a goofy/fantastic sense of humor, he was 100% capable of doing the work, and, as far as I know, did fine at Notre Dame before leaving for the NBA.
I contrast these stories with those of my friends from law school at Ohio State who reported having class with football players who weren't that "in" to their academics, so to speak.
What I'm trying to say is that, though the general perception is that the bar is lowered for athletes at all schools, and there is obviously truth to that (else how does it become the general perception?), I think you'd be shocked (I know I was) at how high the bar actually is for athletes at rigorous academic institutions like Notre Dame, Princeton, Cornell, Stanford, and so on.
I don't think I'm fooling myself about anything...first had experience dictates otherwise. I was in class with multiple hockey and football players, and every one that I ran across was at least middle of the class, imo, in terms of intelligence.
Friends of mine went on to have hockey players and lacrosse players as students when they were TA'ing, and reported the same surprise.
Two of the best hockey players when I was in school were twins, Matt and Mark McRae. After minor league careers that got them close to but not into the NHL, they both went to Yale Medical school. One of them is a plastic surgery resident with one of my best friends at NYU now. Google search indicates the other is also a plastic surgery resident at the Univ. of Toronto.
I also went to high school with 2 professional athletes: George Parros (Anaheim Mighty Ducks) and Troy Murphy (Indiana Pacers). George went on to Princeton, and I can tell you that he was extremely intelligent and deserved to go there. I had AP classes with him, and am pretty sure he had one of the highest SAT scores in our class. Troy was in my math class for two years, and, though he had a goofy/fantastic sense of humor, he was 100% capable of doing the work, and, as far as I know, did fine at Notre Dame before leaving for the NBA.
I contrast these stories with those of my friends from law school at Ohio State who reported having class with football players who weren't that "in" to their academics, so to speak.
What I'm trying to say is that, though the general perception is that the bar is lowered for athletes at all schools, and there is obviously truth to that (else how does it become the general perception?), I think you'd be shocked (I know I was) at how high the bar actually is for athletes at rigorous academic institutions like Notre Dame, Princeton, Cornell, Stanford, and so on.
St. Bear
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I agree with everything you say.
spring_mountain_high
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i grew up in princeton and still follow their teams...pete carrill was a friend of the family...one of the greatest sporting moments for me was watching them beat defending champ UCLA in the 1996 tourney
in the 80's at least, friends who had siblings on teams told me that no student athlete would ever get less than a C in any class.........it's also always been my understanding that penn is easily the most lax in their standards for athletes, hence the perennial domination in football and basketball(not this year, tho...good god are they awful)
in the 80's at least, friends who had siblings on teams told me that no student athlete would ever get less than a C in any class.........it's also always been my understanding that penn is easily the most lax in their standards for athletes, hence the perennial domination in football and basketball(not this year, tho...good god are they awful)
campgottagopee
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Cornell is a solid squad---Coach Boeheim has said a couplke of times that the toughest game they've had all year was against Cornell.....that alone tells me something----watch these guys in the tourney, they'll eff somebodys day up real bad.
You heard it here on AZ first!!!
You heard it here on AZ first!!!
St. Bear
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Funny, I would have expected Boeheim to say that Le Moyne was their toughest game.
campgottagopee
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:razz:LOL---you'd think so, but I would guess he'd say that was the "best" game they played.....kinda was an eye opener for them and I'm thinkin pissed 'em off.
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