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Crashed groomer/new Jay Peak run
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fbrissette
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Wow... They've been planning this fake groomer accident for 27 years... And the plot thickens.
Smellytele
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They must have been trying to reclaim it and then got in over their heads
BenedictGomez
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Looks like it was there on the 1985 trailmap too
I just pulled out a trail map I happened to have around from last year (2011/12), and it's on there as well, yet from the satellite imagery below you can see there wasn't a trail there as of last year.
<--- officially thoroughly confused
AdironRider
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There any utilities or snowmaking pipe running the line?
Thats my explanation at least. Put in a high voltage line or something of that ilk back in the day which required clearing?
Thats my explanation at least. Put in a high voltage line or something of that ilk back in the day which required clearing?
jimmywilson69
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The trail map I printed from Jay's website 6-7 years ago hanging in my office does not show said cut...
BenedictGomez
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So this thing is the Brigadoon of ski trails?
There is 1985, gone in 2005, there again in 2011, and now actually cut as a trail. Someone go ski Jay tomorrow, maybe it's fully grown in with trees and not there anymore.
jimmywilson69
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Yeah it is certainly weird. The map I printed was a pdf of their "printable" trail map that they had on the website of that time period.
riverc0il
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Was up there today and just happened to pass the location in question.
Interestingly enough, the current rendition of the trail map is not accurate. It shows Wedelmaster joining Ull'rs at the Beaver Pond elbow and the "not trail" being off Wedelmaster.
But in fact (and you can see this in BG's lift from google satellite image), Wedel merges with Ullr's well before the Beaver intersection and the groomer rescue cut is decidedly off Ullr's just a bit past the merger of Wedel and Ullr's. The trail map has this "not trail" decidedly off Wedel a bit before the merger but that doesn't line up with reality.
Couldn't see to far down there but looks like it would be skiable with a bunch more snow.
Interestingly enough, the current rendition of the trail map is not accurate. It shows Wedelmaster joining Ull'rs at the Beaver Pond elbow and the "not trail" being off Wedelmaster.
But in fact (and you can see this in BG's lift from google satellite image), Wedel merges with Ullr's well before the Beaver intersection and the groomer rescue cut is decidedly off Ullr's just a bit past the merger of Wedel and Ullr's. The trail map has this "not trail" decidedly off Wedel a bit before the merger but that doesn't line up with reality.
Couldn't see to far down there but looks like it would be skiable with a bunch more snow.
BenedictGomez
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Excellent detective work.
I'm still confused as hell though.
I'm still confused as hell though.
BigJay
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That trail has never been there... But that extra "loop" from 1985 was something completely different before they widened the Ullr's pitch to include snowmaking. You can see that the Ullr's use to be so much narrower... as you make the 90deg turn to the right, notice how wide and "up" that trail goes to the right... that use to be the original alignement... but with grooming and snowmaking, the trail got "optimized" (neutered?)
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