going backwards

[bvibert]

yup :-(


got out tonight with a group of skiers who challenge me, in conditions that were excellent and i felt better. pushed myself a bit and did pretty well. not sure i'm out of the funk but felt better about my skiing. out of control at times but i was pushing it so i don't mind.

i think i might need some boot work, my heels are really coming up which had me tightening the buckles. that has been a pattern the past few times out.

I didn't witness any funk in your skiing last night Gary. You were skiing very well.

I would definitely get the boots looked at though. Heels lifting up really sucks.

 

[SIKSKIER]

Any good skier would have issues if their heels were lifting.That needs to be fixed.

 

[gmcunni]

I didn't witness any funk in your skiing last night Gary. You were skiing very well.

Thanks Brian. i did feel better skiing last night than i had the past few times out.

I would definitely get the boots looked at though. Heels lifting up really sucks.

Any good skier would have issues if their heels were lifting.That needs to be fixed.

funny (to me) is that i've had these boots for a few seasons and dont' recall having this issue before... :???: certainly there is always a small amout of movement but lately it seems to be A LOT! makes me miss my old Salomon rear-entry boots. i'd crank that strap cable across the ankle so tight my feet would go numb until i unbuckled for the ride up.

 

[Greg]

funny (to me) is that i've had these boots for a few seasons and dont' recall having this issue before... :???: certainly there is always a small amout of movement but lately it seems to be A LOT!

A couple of guesses. First, maybe they've just packed out more lately and are now too roomy? Were you shell sized when you bought the boots? They might simply be too big for you. Secondly, I'm going to guess you're skiing bumps more this season than in previous. Heel lift is going to be a more prevalent problem in bumps where you need to remain forward to drive your tips down. When skiing groomers, you can get away with a heel not being totally locked down, or at least the issue might not be as obvious and as detrimental to your skiing. Being able to identify an ill fitting boot just means you're getting better.

 

[gmcunni]

A couple of guesses. First, maybe they've just packed out more lately and are now too roomy? Were you shell sized when you bought the boots? They might simply be too big for you. Secondly, I'm going to guess you're skiing bumps more this season than in previous. Heel lift is going to be a more prevalent problem in bumps where you need to remain forward to drive your tips down. When skiing groomers, you can get away with a heel not being totally locked down, or at least the issue might not be as obvious and as detrimental to your skiing. Being able to identify an ill fitting boot just means you're getting better.

there is some logic to your assessment. i skied more last year than any year before, this year will be more than last. overall i'm skiing more better and more aggressively than i had in the past and probably pushing my equipment (and self) to new limits, revealing flaws that went unnoticed . i've probably spent more time skiing bumps this year than all previous years combined. i'm not sure what "shell sizing" is but i doubt i had that done. i simply tried on a few pairs and bought the ones that felt most comfortable. having a wide foot i probably ended up with a larger shell then someone with the same size but narrower foot. maybe i'll just wear a second pair of socks to see if that helps.

 

[Greg]

i'm not sure what "shell sizing" is but i doubt i had that done. i simply tried on a few pairs and bought the ones that felt most comfortable. having a wide foot i probably ended up with a larger shell then someone with the same size but narrower foot. maybe i'll just wear a second pair of socks to see if that helps.

A good boot fitter will remove the liner and have you put your foot in the empty shell with your toes touching the front of the shell. You should only have a finger or finger and a half distance between your heel and the back of the shell for a "performance" fit. Go ahead and try it. I'm willing to bet you have too much space.

In my experience, a rough rule of thumb is your shell size should be 1 1/2 - 2 sizes smaller than your street shoe. For example I wear a size 12 street shoe (left foot is a tad smaller, more like an 11.5) and I wear a mondo 28.0 shell which equals a size 10 shoe. Check yours here:

http://www.untracked.com/a9pg1-boot_fitting_mondopoint_conversion_chart.html#mondochart

Don't double up on socks expecting that to help. You'll probably just score some nice blisters instead. If the shell is too big, unfortunately there is not much you can do about it. You'll need to buy new boots if you want an improved fit.

It's true that equipment only gets you so far, but it can certainly hold you back. Given the fact of how well you rip bumps in presumably ill fitting boots that are too large and on those 724 Pros which I can't imagine are very forgiving in moguls, I'd be interested to see how well you might do in the right sized boot and on a bump ski.

 

[gmcunni]

Don't double up on socks expecting that to help. You'll probably just score some nice blisters instead.

i forgot the winky.. i know better than to wear 2 pairs :lol:

 

[Greg]

i forgot the winky.. i know better than to wear 2 pairs :lol:

:lol: Phew!

 

[gmcunni]

A good boot fitter will remove the liner and have you put your foot in the empty shell with your toes touching the front of the shell. You should only have a finger or finger and a half distance between your heel and the back of the shell for a "performance" fit. Go ahead and try it. I'm willing to bet you have too much space.

tried it quickly, i'd say a little more than 2 finger distance between heel and back of shell.

 

[hammer]

tried it quickly, i'd say a little more than 2 finger distance between heel and back of shell.

Too big...get thee to a bootfitter, there would be good deals this time of the year...

 

[Greg]

tried it quickly, i'd say a little more than 2 finger distance between heel and back of shell.

Yeah, too big, but maybe not disastrously so. Bring them to a good boot fitting. They might be able to add some padding to the outside of the liner to take up some space. Never going to be ideal, but you might be able to improve it some.

 

[gmcunni]

Yeah, too big, but maybe not disastrously so. Bring them to a good boot fitting. They might be able to add some padding to the outside of the liner to take up some space. Never going to be ideal, but you might be able to improve it some.

that stupid Kryton thread has been in the back of my mind for weeks.. i think i know what i want for Christmas next year.

 

[SkiDork]

ride it switch into the road...

 

[bvibert]

tried it quickly, i'd say a little more than 2 finger distance between heel and back of shell.

Sounds like it's too big. I wear a size 12 street shoe, the last several years I was in a 29.5 boot and had serious heel lift issues. This year I finally got into some proper fitting boots in a 28.5 and the heel lift issues are much better. I still seem to have a bit, but it's much more manageable.

 

[Greg]

ride it switch into the road...

What are you smoking today? :???: It's your posts have been all over the road. :lol:

 

[gladerider]

Too big...get thee to a bootfitter, there would be good deals this time of the year...

another vote for that. i had heel lift problem for a few season. last season i finally stopped by a bootfitter near by sugarbush. i forget his name but the shop is right on the sugarbush access road, on the left of the road as you head down the hill. he fixed me up good.

 

[2knees]

ride it switch into the road...

you're trying waaaaaay too hard.