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Groomer Stoke Thread

diecastmania

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More Pictures of the wreck of 1968 (see previous post for introduction)

Photo four shows the underside from below
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Photo five: a close-up of the wheels. The track and rubber tires are long gone.
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Photo six: Notice how much the tree has grown around this wheel.
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Photo seven is whats left of the gauges and controls.
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The files say they are invalid, do you still have the pics elsewhere?
 

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BMM which type of groomer do you prefer? PB or Prinoth?

Isn't the main difference between the two joystick vs steering wheel tuning?
 

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BMM which type of groomer do you prefer? PB or Prinoth?

Isn't the main difference between the two joystick vs steering wheel tuning?

The first cat is a Bombardier.
Piston Bullies are left hand drive steering wheels. Primoths are center drive sticks.

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BMM which type of groomer do you prefer? PB or Prinoth?

Isn't the main difference between the two joystick vs steering wheel tuning?

The first cat is a Bombardier.
Piston Bullies are left hand drive steering wheels. Prinoths are center drive sticks.

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The Prinoth BR-350 is still in production, and is a left-seat stick machine. The Prinoth Bison and Beast are center seat with sticks. PistenBully machines (400 and 600) are left seat, available in either sticks or wheel.

To answer the question re: machine preference, I'm split. I definitely prefer sticks to the yoke, though I've logged plenty of hours in both types of controls. Overall, I'm a PB (with sticks) guy. From my own experience, they seem to be more reliable. I also prefer the finish from the PB tiller, though there are some distinct advantages to the Prinoth technology. Engine-wise, I like the older PBs with Mercedes powerplants better than the new 400s with the Cummins QSL. The Cat C9 in the BR350 (and Bison, I think) is certainly a workhorse, but I've had more than a few computer/sensor glitches that took me off the hill. It's also the throatiest, loudest engine I've heard on a snowcat. Can be cool to hear from a distance, but not so much when you spend a whole shift in it... have to crank up the tunes! In terms of creature comforts, I've always been partial to the PB interior. Though I do like the center seat option in the new Prinoth cats.

So how's that for a non-committal answer? Long story short, they're all great cats. Each manufacturer has strong points and weak points. But I guess if I had a blank check in my hand, I'd go PB right now.
 
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Here are a few in-cab pictures I was able to dig up to differentiate between various controls:

PB300 with wheel:

300yoke.jpg


Old-style PB sticks (paddles) in a PB200 Edge (with my little brother at the sticks... years ago...):

edgesticks.jpg


Blade joystick and console from the same PB200 Edge:

edgecontrols.jpg


New PB sticks in a demo PB400 from 2009:

400cab.jpg


Prinoth BR350 controls (sticks are out of frame to the left):

350console.jpg


Bison pix in next post...
 

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BMM once again you have given us laymen who drool over playing with such neat toys a wonderful insight into the complexities of what you do with them. :thumbup:More groomer stoke please !
 
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