Haystack Mountain Private Resort

[steamboat1]

Why does everyone like to count other peoples money?

Worry about yourself.

Could I afford it?

Probably.

Would I want to ski Haystack all the time?

Absolutely not.

 

[ss20]

One option is paying $7,500 over the course of 10 years plus dues, that seems reasonable.. but one must be between the ages of 21 and 32. I would love to see the percentage of individuals that young that can afford $10k+ a year to join. I'm willing to bet it is a fraction of 1%.

Easy. The children of the 1%er's who will never have to work a day in their lives.

 

[Puck it]

Why does everyone like to count other peoples money?

Worry about yourself.

Could I afford it?

Probably.

Would I want to ski Haystack all the time?

Absolutely not.

+1.

 

[Tin]

Why does everyone like to count other peoples money?

Worry about yourself.

Could I afford it?

Probably.

Would I want to ski Haystack all the time?

Absolutely not.

I agree with this but my comments had nothing to do with counting money. I was demonstrating how absurd BG's claim was. I'm very happy with the money and life I have and wouldn't change a thing.

 

[drjeff]

Easy. The children of the 1%er's who will never have to work a day in their lives.

I think that you need to be talking the children of the 0.1%er's or maybe even the 0.01%er's before you can get into the not having to work a day in their lives thing.....

 

[VTKilarney]

Why does everyone like to count other peoples money?

Worry about yourself.

Could I afford it?

Probably.

Would I want to ski Haystack all the time?

Absolutely not.

This comes across as somewhat arrogant when you realize that the statement is being made by a member of a generation that is leaving a whole lot less economic opportunity than their parents had left for them.

While I don't think that it makes sense to look at individuals, I do think its fair game to look at a generation and recognize the fact that we are subsidizing, and will continue to be subsidizing this generation for a long time to come. Enjoy your defined benefit pension and full social security - and thanks for forcing us to pick up the tab.


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[Puck it]

This comes across as somewhat arrogant when you realize that the statement is being made by a member of a generation that is leaving a whole lot less economic opportunity than their parents had left for them.

While I don't think that it makes sense to look at individuals, I do think its fair game to look at a generation and recognize the fact that we are subsidizing, and will continue to be subsidizing this generation for a long time to come. Enjoy your defined benefit pension and full social security - and thanks for forcing us to pick up the tab.


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I am not counting on SS to be there for my retirement. I am not quite sure what generation you are talking for one.

 

[SIKSKIER]

I am not counting on SS to be there for my retirement. I am not quite sure what generation you are talking for one.

This exactly.I look at it like SS will be a bonus if its there for me.

 

[VTKilarney]

I am not counting on SS to be there for my retirement. I am not quite sure what generation you are talking for one.

Nor am I. And that is exactly my point. The baby boomers are able to enjoy full social security benefits, whereas subsequent generations cannot count on doing so.

 

[Puck it]

Nor am I. And that is exactly my point. The baby boomers are able to enjoy full social security benefits, whereas subsequent generations cannot count on doing so.

I think that is the fault of the governments not the generations fault. Their is not enough people paying in and too much going out.

 

[Smellytele]

I think that is the fault of the governments not the generations fault. Their is not enough people paying in and too much going out.

Really the problem with most types of Socialism.

 

[steamboat1]

Nor am I. And that is exactly my point. The baby boomers are able to enjoy full social security benefits, whereas subsequent generations cannot count on doing so.

I think that is the fault of the governments not the generations fault. Their is not enough people paying in and too much going out.

If the government had actually put the money collected from SS in a SS Fund like it was supposed to we wouldn't be having this discussion. Interest earned from the Fund would more than cover everyone. The government borrowed from SS & wrote IOU's in it's place so budget deficits wouldn't look so bad. Now the government nor SS can afford it. Who's fault is that?

 

[VTKilarney]

Who's fault is that?

The bottom line is that baby boomers are leaving less economic opportunity for their children than their parents left for them. Period.

 

[steamboat1]

The bottom line is that baby boomers are leaving less economic opportunity for their children than their parents left for them. Period.

Why is that? Perhaps middle class mfg. jobs moved overseas because of cheaper labor costs not to mention lower corp. tax rates. We brought it upon ourselves. Everyone wants to be a Chief but no one wants to be an Indian. Is that PC?

 

[Puck it]

The bottom line is that baby boomers are leaving less economic opportunity for their children than their parents left for them. Period.

That is a broad generalization. Please explain how they have done that?

 

[VTKilarney]

That is a broad generalization. Please explain how they have done that?

It's a ski forum. Let's move on.


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[ThinkSnow]

Especially if you ski from 9am-3am! I can get 8-10 runs an hour even when I hit a few glades on the way down.

Wow! Where are you skiing at 3am?!? ;-)

 

[drjeff]

Wow! Where are you skiing at 3am?!? ;-)

Crotched actually DOES keep the lifts spinning until 3AM on a few select days of the season

 

[cdskier]

Wow! Where are you skiing at 3am?!? ;-)

On top of that, I hope the "8-10" runs comment was sarcasm. 10 runs an hour is 1 run every 6 minutes. 8 runs is one run every 7.5 minutes. Using Sugarbush as an example, the shortest lift ride time is on Gate House (just under 5 minutes). That leaves just over a minute to make it down and reload the lift to make the 1 run every 6 minutes mark. And honestly, who would want to lap GH that much?

Super Bravo's ride time is slightly over 6 minutes, so 10 runs is impossible right off the bat just from lift ride time. Even flying down the mountain non-stop would make the 7.5 minute mark tough to hit for the 8 runs an hour (and leaves no room for glades or moguls).

 

[Jully]

That is a broad generalization. Please explain how they have done that?

I agree we should move on, but I think all VTKilarney was trying to say was that regardless of how it happened, SS and other systems are being left in worse shape than they inherited them in.

Don't think anyone is going to disagree in saying SS is a mess right now.