Hurricane Katrina

[Brettski]

It doesn't open, what is it?

 

[ctenidae]

Click on "Listen" in the bar at the top.

Apparently 2 Chinooks left Hammond AF Base for Bellchase (there's a NG armory there) with 63 "packs", to be followed by 50 more. I think "packs" are troops.

EDIT: They are- a transportation unit from the OK NG

 

[thetrailboss]

If they manage to evac the whole city, they ought to declare martial law and issue shoot to kill orders to the police if they find any stragglers looting.

I concur. As much as I love democracy, martial law is needed in this situation. If they don't kill those bas$%^s, we ship them to Iraq to fight the terrorists there and use their sharpshooting skills to benefit our country.

 

[loafer89]

Without this turning into something political, there was this man standing on the corner of the Lake Grove Mall by my house furiously waving a sign reading:

"Bush is a failure"

Without more specific details than that, I can only guess what he is angry about???

I barely had enough time to read the sign driving by on my way home.

 

[ctenidae]

I read something (entirely unconfirmed, but plausible)earlier that said that since LA is governed by Napoleonic Law (as opposed to English Common Law like the rest of the country), Martial law is illegal. Doesn't mean there's a variety available, but it's not martial law, per se.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

As I watch all this horrible human suffering one thing that I hear stated over and over is that it will take years to get New Orleans back to normal.

When they're back to normal the city will still be below sea level hoping it doesn't happen again.

 

[Brettski]

Whatever law it is, the National Gaurd has been Ordered to shoot to kill looters as of last night.

I don't think there is any law currently in NO

 

[ctenidae]

New scanner feed:

http://216.14.30.229:8001/

Just heard: "Flak jacket and Kevlar, at a minimum"
Don't know the context, but that can't be good.

 

[Brettski]

I get access denied, bandwidth exceeded...

 

[deadheadskier]

As I watch all this horrible human suffering one thing that I hear stated over and over is that it will take years to get New Orleans back to normal.

When they're back to normal the city will still be below sea level hoping it doesn't happen again.

I would venture to say that New Orleans will not return to normal as we have known it. Obviously they can't completely 'scrap' the city, but it seems to me that there should not be any development at all within a quarter mile of of all the levees and that they should be shored up with a tremendous amount of earth.

One can only assume that a very large percentage of the residents will not return considering how long its going to take to dry up and for jobs and services to return.

If I had a home there, a good job and had taken the precautions to evacuate - if my home was destroyed and it looked like it was going to be more than 60 days before I could return to work and start rebuilding, I wouldn't go back, I'd start life a new somewhere else.

 

[ctenidae]

Keep trying ont eh scanner- looks like they can take 1500 listeners, only 308 on at the moment.

3 trucks of MREs just made it to the Superdome, and the LSP is setting up fueling stations.

"We don't need water, we don't need no kind of supplies. Alls I want is my clothes"
I wish I could listen intently enough to pick up all the context. Dang work!

 

[JimG.]

Without this turning into something political, there was this man standing on the corner of the Lake Grove Mall by my house furiously waving a sign reading:

"Bush is a failure"

Without more specific details than that, I can only guess what he is angry about???

I barely had enough time to read the sign driving by on my way home.

Thanks to all for keeping this non-political. The situation down there is unlike anything seen in this country, 9/11 included.

Sometimes, rushing in to help without a plan causes more damage than carefully evaluating what needs to be done. I think we've all been caught off guard and are suffering from "deer in the headlights" syndrome.

It's awfully tough when everything is damaged and just about everything needs to be done.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

How long do you think the stream of made for tv movies about this tragedy will start showing up? Hollywood will have a couple too.

 

[bvibert]

How long do you think the stream of made for tv movies about this tragedy will start showing up? Hollywood will have a couple too.

A couple of months...

 

[tirolerpeter]

NO

My son is a Naval Officer (LT) whose new ship is under construction at a faciility in/near NO. Needless to say the entire area is wiped out for the time being. He was in NC during the storm (getting married) and now he and his new wife can not return to their condo in Kenner (located between NO and lake Ponchatrane (sp?). They do not know if it is still there, how much damage it has sustained, if his car has floated away, or if it has been looted? Needless to say, they did not manage to fly out of NO for their honeymoon. What a hell of a way to start a marriage!

He and some members of his unit (that can be contacted) are going to muster in Memphis and will be sent on some sort of rescue/recovery mission into the destruction zone. He has already been told that they will be fully armed for all contingencies. Frightening situation for a dad! I know, no politics...but this old Vietnam Vet is starting to have some bad nights again.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Re: NO

My son is a Naval Officer (LT) whose new ship is under construction at a faciility in/near NO. Needless to say the entire area is wiped out for the time being. He was in NC during the storm (getting married) and now he and his new wife can not return to their condo in Kenner (located between NO and lake Ponchatrane (sp?). They do not know if it is still there, how much damage it has sustained, if his car has floated away, or if it has been looted? Needless to say, they did not manage to fly out of NO for their honeymoon. What a hell of a way to start a marriage!

He and some members of his unit (that can be contacted) are going to muster in Memphis and will be sent on some sort of rescue/recovery mission into the destruction zone. He has already been told that they will be fully armed for all contingencies. Frightening situation for a dad! I know, no politics...but this old Vietnam Vet is starting to have some bad nights again.

I'm sorry to hear about your bad news. I sure hope all goes well for you and yours. It's hard to believe this is happening in our country and it all came upon us so fast.

 

[pedxing]

tirolerpete:

My thoughts are with you, your son, his wife and his unit and with the people of New Orleans.

I was a guest in a house in New Orleans, very near lake Ponchetrain and in are recotory near the canal where the levee broke (if my reading of the info is accurate).

 

[pedxing]

http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_nolaview/archives/2005_09.html#075736

very - very -very bad...

Thanks for that link DMB. I found the report by Robert Le Balnc to be uplifting - it's good to hear that side of things amidst all the negative reports. His apparent goodness here is as moving as the stories he relates.

I have been pondering something William James wrote, and while Mr. Le Blanc may or may not agree, his stories resonate for me:

"I am done with great things and big plans, great institutions and big success. I am for those tiny, invisible loving human forces that work from individual to individual, creeping through the crannies of the world like so many rootlets, or like the capillary oozing of water, which, if given time, will rend the hardest monuments of pride."
--William James (1842-1910)