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Improvements you'd make?

gregnye

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Here's my improvements:

Loon: replace the gondola to an 8 person one.

No, replace it with a 6-passenger bubble chair. Provides much easier boarding. Plus the summit would be completely overloaded with 8 people per car.

Or at the least, run the speed in station faster so that the gondolas are spaced closer togethor--therefore much more capacity.
 

MadMadWorld

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Would love to see Smuggs expand over to Whiteface and Upper Morse. Whiteface would offer expert terrain similar to Madonna and UM would offer lots of intermediate trails. I drool when I look up at Whiteface from Madonna II. I would much rather this than a new HSQ on Sterling.
 

MarkC

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Decrease snowmaking at Plattekill. I realize from a business stand point it required, but one of the things that originally drew me to Plattekill was the natural snow and lack of grooming.

You are really not going to like the plan for this summer :)
 

ScottySkis

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You are really not going to like the plan for this summer :)

Finally use that huge huge huge pond, I like them to have more snowmaking because they only open half of terrain most of time. But unfortunately they need more snowmaking with todays climate changes. Maybe I buy my pass at Platty instead of Elk next year.
 

deadheadskier

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Would love to see Smuggs expand over to Whiteface and Upper Morse. Whiteface would offer expert terrain similar to Madonna and UM would offer lots of intermediate trails. I drool when I look up at Whiteface from Madonna II. I would much rather this than a new HSQ on Sterling.

Would be awesome, but won't ever happen due to Bear habitat over that way. As a student at UVM's school of Natural Resources in the late 90s, we helped with several studies over in that area of the mountain range. There's some major Beech Tree stands, so it's all pretty much off limits to development.
 

MadMadWorld

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Would be awesome, but won't ever happen due to Bear habitat over that way. As a student at UVM's school of Natural Resources in the late 90s, we helped with several studies over in that area of the mountain range. There's some major Beech Tree stands, so it's all pretty much off limits to development.

Thanks for the info. I had no idea
 

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At Hunter I'd regrade the area around the west side quad and the top too...
To make it easier to get to and not have to go uphill..
 

skiking4

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Whiteface: Add runs under the gondola to Little Whiteface that drop down that face. Have a traverse coming back.
Hunter: Add trails to skier's left of Purna (most likely single diamond runs because I think it's less steep but no run out, as little as that run out is). Add terrain in ravine between Hunter One and Hunter Mountain and connect them. Cut more tree terrain.
Windham: Needs glades. Cut a ton. expand onto backside of East Peak.
Belleayre: Extend down to Pinehill to have around 2000 vertical, have gondola going to top, add Highmount. Build a much better terrain park.
Plattekill: Extend boundaries, left and right, of resort. Maybe have some lower terrain that goes like 300 vertical lower than the current base and over/under the road.
Stratton: New gondola. 8 person cars.
Catamount: Cut run off Ridge Run to skier's right of Catapult for another double diamond. Make a glade run in there. Get a better park crew, those jumps are sketch. Expand onto backside- steep terrain back there. Add old run that goes under summit and Glade chair that is semi cut and that ends at the base of Catapult.
Jiminy Peak: Cut glades in between trails. There's plenty of room. Allow more bumps on the side of some runs. Expand more on that second peak.
 

4aprice

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Would love to see Smuggs expand over to Whiteface and Upper Morse. Whiteface would offer expert terrain similar to Madonna and UM would offer lots of intermediate trails. I drool when I look up at Whiteface from Madonna II. I would much rather this than a new HSQ on Sterling.

Always thought a gondola from the village to the top of Morse with trails spilling down towards Mid Madonna would be cool but the face there looks a little rocky. Whiteface (Sterling Mountain I believe is its real name) looks awesome but DHS's environmental reasons and the current ski/board economy make his doubts of its developement valid in my book.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ
 

snowngr

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I don't know if this is the best picture because it is on the lower portion of liftline where the doubles criss crossed and that was always wide. The middle and upper sections were much different I believe. I would like to hear the answer from your friend if you find out

The double and single did not cross. They were almost perfectly parallel. Could you be thinking of Sugarloaf, Sunapee or Attitash? Not many crossing chairs in new England.
 

ScottySkis

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More snowmaking and operating the huge huge huge huge snow pond on top of a hill in Roxbury NY, double the deck and bar up stairs.

Hunter wants to open more terrain but lovely NY will not let.them.:thumbdown:
 

gregnye

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My Improvements:

Cannon: Fix power issue on Cannonball Quad so that it can revive its fake "express" name--even though it is not detachable! :smile:
-Perhaps install some lift on Banchee to make the Tram area more of a "destination". I realize that this will never happen because Cannon is owned by the state, but there is some nice intermediate pitch at the bottom of the tram that no one can use because they have to ski tramline or kinsman.

Waterville: CARRY OUT THE EXPANSION!!!!!! Don't just do green peak (phase 1). Carry out phase 2 from green peak to village. Don't install a gondola though, install a bubble chair from village to top of green peak meeting Phase 1.

Loon: Upgrade Kancagmangus (or however you spell it!!) into a 6-passenger lift. Take the old Kancamangus quad that you now replaced (theoretically) and replace 7 brothers with it. Run the new "7-bros express quad" at a slightly slower speed than usual high-speed lifts to not overwhelm gondola area. Upgrade Summit Cafe with more seating and bring back the Jamaican Music!! :razz:

Sunapee: Haven't been there in years and will not come back unless you make the sun-bowl quad high-speed. That is the truth. I HATE that lift. Also try to convince the state to allow west expansion. Trust me, you of all the resorts need it the most!

Attitash: Realign flying yankee express where summit triple is and make it go to the summit. That may make me reconsider whether I want to go there vs. Wildcat (however, I will always pick wildcat!)


Out West:

Vail: Build a High-speed lift up siberia/inner mongolia ridge! This would relive pressure off of the China Bowl Chair and eliminate the cat-track--which is needed.

Breckenridge: Replace 6-Chair with express quad that starts lower down in the valley. It is just silly that you have to ride a slow lift just to get to the imperial express. It makes lapping Whale's tail difficult. Put a bathroom in the warming hut that you have by the imperial express.

Snowmass: Replace High Alpine double with a faster loading-carpet chair.


I could go on all day! But I won't
 
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I would extend the White Mountains down to the Massachusetts Bay Area, with a 6000-footer right around Peabody to catch the moisture from the ocean. Sorry for the disruption if you live on the North Shore, but on the positive side your house would now be a slope-side condo.
 

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I would extend the White Mountains down to the Massachusetts Bay Area, with a 6000-footer right around Peabody to catch the moisture from the ocean. Sorry for the disruption if you live on the North Shore, but on the positive side your house would now be a slope-side condo.
YEAHHHH.. and then Devil Patrick would close the roads every time they saw flurry coming.. Is skiing really worth a year in jail?
 

ScottySkis

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I would extend the White Mountains down to the Massachusetts Bay Area, with a 6000-footer right around Peabody to catch the moisture from the ocean. Sorry for the disruption if you live on the North Shore, but on the positive side your house would now be a slope-side condo.

How about Google car to get you to stowe and north Vermont to.
 

Bostonian

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For my home mountain of gunstock the following:


Easy list:

1. Manicure Hotshot, but do not widen it!

2. Load the beverages and etc, before they start loading the lift at 8:30 for regular days service

3. Seed bumps on Redhat for experts and Phelps for beginners.

4. Open the summit liftline for skiing during seasons with copious amounts of natural snow (a la magic's lift line runs)



Hard List:

1. Cut another expert trail from Upper Ramrod down to trigger or the bottom of Hotshot...

2. Install a lift up to the Mt. Rowe summit (in the old Single line) and cut some trails from the top down

3. Cut a trail from the top of Cannonball, down to the top of the ramrod lift.

4. High Speed quad for the Tiger lift replacement
 
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