KBL Damaged/Killington Damage Reports

[dangah]

Some more photos of Irene damage at Killington Resort:

http://www.facebook.com/killingtonresort#!/media/set/?set=a.10150290324499401.342389.34949209400

Chris Danforth
Marketing Manager
Killington Resort

 

[deadheadskier]

I was in Nokomis/Venice, 20 miles to the Northwest. zip for damage in our neighborhood. I think the Port Charlotte folks got screwed mainly because the storm was supposed to go right into Tampa Bay. In Venice they were saying it was unlikely Charley would make landfall that far south. Turns out, it ducked in south of Venice.

Charley was tiny, but super powerful. I believe a Cat 4 right before it hit. If Irene was a Cat 3 at the size storm it was, the scope of the damage would be unimaginable.

I've got no problem with weathermen hyping hurricanes to the max. Snowstorms? That's a little different.

 

[Newpylong]

Words can not express the anger that boils inside of me every time I hear someone complain that the storm was "overhyped" or "a bust"...

Just because NYC wasn't inundated with flooding doesn't mean the storm wasn't a big deal...

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-w

I'm just two towns below you in Billerica (Pinehurst) and I was in my basement for the better part of Sunday. We had consistent 40 mph winds with frequent gusts to 70. All around my house are 60 foot tall old pines... one came down in the woods 10 feet from the house and that was enough for me. Needless to say some of my friends in Boston were barely getting rain, and were sure to say how much of a bust the storm was on Facebook. Needless to say I was bullshit at the time and even more so after seeing what happened to Vermont. I think their tune has changed...

 

[ALLSKIING]

I lived in Florida during the summer of 04, and 4 major hurricanes; Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne. I don't think the Irene coverage was any more 'hyped' than what I watched on the news back then.

The primary difference is people in the Northeast are not used to watching hurricane coverage 24-7 on the TV because we don't really ever have hurricanes.

Thats because they were after Andrew.....that storm changed a lot for building code in Dade...I went through that in 02 and will never stick around for a cat 5 ever again.

 

[riverc0il]

Here is the thing.... the storm actually WAS over hyped until the flooding happened on the back end of the storm. Also, I think we should keep in mind the hype was coastal. Inland issues were largely ignored. The problem is not over hyping but rather regional context. It could have just as easily have been coastal instead. The storm, on paper, was powerful enough to really hurt the coast. Instead, the largely ignored inland area got nailed. Good thing those folks heard hype about the storm so they could be as well protected as possible. Lots of folks are now trapped inside rivers with no bridge out and have to rely on themselves for food. Bet they are glad (or wish they had) made that emergency grocery and batteries run.

 

[bobbutts]

I was in Nokomis/Venice, 20 miles to the Northwest. zip for damage in our neighborhood. I think the Port Charlotte folks got screwed mainly because the storm was supposed to go right into Tampa Bay. In Venice they were saying it was unlikely Charley would make landfall that far south. Turns out, it ducked in south of Venice.

Charley was tiny, but super powerful. I believe a Cat 4 right before it hit. If Irene was a Cat 3 at the size storm it was, the scope of the damage would be unimaginable.

I've got no problem with weathermen hyping hurricanes to the max. Snowstorms? That's a little different.

funny, my friend came to stay with me from Englewood after I told him he probably didn't want to be near the beach for the storm. Zero damage at his place too.
I was super lucky, only needed a new roof and lanai and only minor water damage.. It pretty much came down to whose house got hit by flying debris and didn't.

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

I lived in Florida during the summer of 04, and 4 major hurricanes; Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne. I don't think the Irene coverage was any more 'hyped' than what I watched on the news back then.

The primary difference is people in the Northeast are not used to watching hurricane coverage 24-7 on the TV because we don't really ever have hurricanes.

Yes, but in the northeast we get things called nor easters, blizzards, snow, etc, and in this day and age the local media go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overboard with 6 inches of snow. Let's be honest it's good for ad revenue for them to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Puck it]

Yes, but in the northeast we get things called nor easters, blizzards, snow, etc, and in this day and age the local media go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overboard with 6 inches of snow. Let's be honest it's good for ad revenue for them to make a mountain out of a molehill.

There are a lot of people without power still. My son is going on his fourth day. UCONN started classes today, too. He lives off campus and we put him up in a hotel with his roommates. He may jot get power back until Thursday. Yeah, way too much hype.

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

There are a lot of people without power still. My son is going on his fourth day. UCONN started classes today, too. He lives off campus and we put him up in a hotel with his roommates. He may jot get power back until Thursday. Yeah, way too much hype.

I didn't say this was way too much hype (from the weathermens perspective), heck in Vermont, Upstate NY and parts of NH they nailed it. The rain aspect they got just about perfect, the wind was a little off, but still enough to do damage. I do doubt the media's motives for the "hype", good for ratings or good for the people. I just find it funny when you got a WMUR guy doing his live report outside the studio with drizzle coming down and thus began the 12 straight hours of storm coverage. No need to be a dick.

 

[deadheadskier]

Here is the thing.... the storm actually WAS over hyped until the flooding happened on the back end of the storm. .

disagree

wasn't overhyped AT ALL . Misforecasted? absolutely. Overhyped? No

They didn't get the forecast right on wind speed, it wasn't a Cat 2-3 (thank god), but they di get the forecast right for 6-10 inches of rain though. No one knew the kind of damage that much rain would do as it hasn't happened in our country's history. Think about that. 500 year floods for parts of NY, VT, NJ. No one knew what that much rain could do on saturated soil in the Northeast because it's never happened in recorded history before on such a large scale. Rhode Island last year comes close.

Some folks are saying Irene will produce damages in excess of 10 Billion dollars. To put that in perspective, that's two years of our state's budget. More tragic is that so far 42 people are dead from the storm.

With those kind of numbers, I don't know how it can be said that the storm was overhyped. It was a BAD MOFO any way you add it up.

Hurricanes are far more dangerous than snowstorms. I've got no problem with weathermen screaming wolf as loud as they can whenever a hurricane comes near human life.

 

[deadheadskier]

Thats because they were after Andrew.....that storm changed a lot for building code in Dade...I went through that in 02 and will never stick around for a cat 5 ever again.

you're older than that dude. Andrew was in 92 :lol:

 

[Nick]

Some more photos of Irene damage at Killington Resort:

http://www.facebook.com/killingtonresort#!/media/set/?set=a.10150290324499401.342389.34949209400

Chris Danforth
Marketing Manager
Killington Resort

Wow, just some amazing shots. Best of luck with the recovery for all that. Would love to hear more about the plan, someone already has that covered in the challenge questions.

 

[drjeff]

disagree

wasn't overhyped AT ALL . Misforecasted? absolutely. Overhyped? No

They didn't get the forecast right on wind speed, it wasn't a Cat 2-3 (thank god), but they di get the forecast right for 6-10 inches of rain though. No one knew the kind of damage that much rain would do as it hasn't happened in our country's history. Think about that. 500 year floods for parts of NY, VT, NJ. No one knew what that much rain could do on saturated soil in the Northeast because it's never happened in recorded history before on such a large scale. Rhode Island last year comes close.

Some folks are saying Irene will produce damages in excess of 10 Billion dollars. To put that in perspective, that's two years of our state's budget. More tragic is that so far 42 people are dead from the storm.

With those kind of numbers, I don't know how it can be said that the storm was overhyped. It was a BAD MOFO any way you add it up.

Hurricanes are far more dangerous than snowstorms. I've got no problem with weathermen screaming wolf as loud as they can whenever a hurricane comes near human life.

Well said!

 

[Puck it]

I didn't say this was way too much hype (from the weathermens perspective), heck in Vermont, Upstate NY and parts of NH they nailed it. The rain aspect they got just about perfect, the wind was a little off, but still enough to do damage. I do doubt the media's motives for the "hype", good for ratings or good for the people. I just find it funny when you got a WMUR guy doing his live report outside the studio with drizzle coming down and thus began the 12 straight hours of storm coverage. No need to be a dick.

Not being a dick, but too many people are saying the storm was overplayed. For some yes, others no.

 

[drjeff]

Not being a dick, but too many people are saying the storm was overplayed. For some yes, others no.

Still though, IMHO, much better to be overprepared and have a storm "underperform" for you than be underprepared and have a storm "overperform" for you.

 

[oakapple]

disagree

Here is the thing.... the storm actually WAS over hyped. . . .

wasn't overhyped AT ALL . Misforecasted? absolutely.

I don't even agree with "misforecasted". By its very nature, a forecast is imperfect. It's a range of probabilities. What actually happened was well within the ambit of what the forecast said could happen.

Obviously, there will always be emphasis on the "worst that could happen," even if it's unlikely in the absolute sense. If you've got six chambers and five are empty, a sensible forecast will advise that if you fire the gun at your head, there is a significant chance of death. If you happen to survive, that doesn't mean the forecast was inaccurate. You have to tell people how bad it could be.

Weather forecasting has become so good that when it isn't perfect, people will say it was over-hyped or erroneous, because they don't understand what a forecast is.

 

[AdironRider]

To be honest, not to discredit Vermont, but this storm was made out to be worse than Katrina.

While the flooding in Vermont has been severe, to say this storm lived up to its expectations put up by CNN etc is hogwash. A couple thousand people without power and flooded out roads is fixable in a couple weeks, tops. Maybe not to the point where it looks like nothing happened, but Vermont is not going to look like New Orleans does now in 5 years. Lets be real here. In a couple days people will be traveling about Vermont on dirt roads instead of pavement, with a couple detours, OH THE HORROR! While it sucks for the people who lost their homes, they should have flood insurance, or else its their own fault.

Overhyped definitely. But for the unfortunate ones who are stuck momentarily, I can see them wanting to blow off steam.

 

[jimmywilson69]

your kidding right? there are entire roads washed out and towns inaccessible.

Vermont's entire economy is hanging in limbo right now.

 

[drjeff]

To be honest, not to discredit Vermont, but this storm was made out to be worse than Katrina.

While the flooding in Vermont has been severe, to say this storm lived up to its expectations put up by CNN etc is hogwash. A couple thousand people without power and flooded out roads is fixable in a couple weeks, tops. Maybe not to the point where it looks like nothing happened, but Vermont is not going to look like New Orleans does now in 5 years. Lets be real here.

Overhyped definitely. But for the unfortunate ones who are stuck momentarily, I can see them wanting to blow off steam.

A couple of thousand people?? Try a storm total of over 2.5 MILLION people. Heck we still have about 300,000 without power here in CT alone!

 

[Black Phantom]

To be honest, not to discredit Vermont, but this storm was made out to be worse than Katrina.

While the flooding in Vermont has been severe, to say this storm lived up to its expectations put up by CNN etc is hogwash. A couple thousand people without power and flooded out roads is fixable in a couple weeks, tops. Maybe not to the point where it looks like nothing happened, but Vermont is not going to look like New Orleans does now in 5 years. Lets be real here. In a couple days people will be traveling about Vermont on dirt roads instead of pavement, with a couple detours, OH THE HORROR! While it sucks for the people who lost their homes, they should have flood insurance, or else its their own fault.

Overhyped definitely. But for the unfortunate ones who are stuck momentarily, I can see them wanting to blow off steam.

wow