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Killington is going to open before Sunday River this season.

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Sure they do. Almost everyy year they make snow on Upper Double Dipper at the same time as Rime and East Glade err Reason.


Not until they are done the Rime and Reason and Upper East Fall then the Upper Dipper gets the goods.
 

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I think its at the GN X-over. if you look at the gun on the left, it appears that there is a trail perpendicular to the lift.

eitherway. It looks like they aren't that far away from spinning lifts
 

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Here's what I just posted over on K-zone in response to someone claiming they would open Friday:

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Let's be realistic here. You need to look at the forecast graph:

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They aren't going to be able to start making snow until midnight-ish Thursday evening.....IF the forecast pans out. They barely made any snow the other night. There was melting this whole week so far, and a bit of r*in is forecast. There is virtually no way they would open Friday morning on 8 hours of snowmaking. These guys like to have a chance to groom things out, etc, etc. IMHO, it's much more likely they'll make snow from Thursday night until Saturday morning, then groom quickly and open mid-late morning.

Only way a Friday opening could happen is if they got more snow instaid of r*in (unlikely), made good snow Thursday night and opened mid-day Friday while snowmaking was ongoing. I just don't see these guys doing that.

I think it's pretty likely they will be able to get open Saturday.
 

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And while we're at it, here's the same graph for Sunday River:

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Looks like they'll be able to fire up the guns a few hours later (3am-ish) than Killington and also make a run at it, though it will be very marginal mid-day Friday. IMHO almost impossible for them to get open Friday, unless it's on very thin cover. Friday night it will get colder quickly and they should get some solid production overnight, seems like a good chance they will get open Saturday.
 

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And while we're at it, here's the same graph for Sunday River:

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Looks like they'll be able to fire up the guns a few hours later (3am-ish) than Killington and also make a run at it, though it will be very marginal mid-day Friday. IMHO almost impossible for them to get open Friday, unless it's on very thin cover. Friday night it will get colder quickly and they should get some solid production overnight, seems like a good chance they will get open Saturday.
But I'm guessing they aren't working with an existing base. Odds of Killington going with a soft opening at noon on Friday if they see SR fire up the guns Thursday night? Just enough to grab the title, then open with decent coverage at 10 on Saturday.
 

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Like K, I highly douby SR will open just for the sake of opening. When T2 has been opened in the past, the cover has been very good and only declined due to ncp and warm weather. They typically don't open until they blow the heck out of that trail. That said, unless they secretly made snow earlier this week, they will not open this weekend. There isn't enough time with the marginal temps.

Geography has not been kind to Maine this October, but then again, it's only October.
 

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K and Sunday River can open up any time they want. They have had the weather the past two weeks and the foot of snow did not hurt. The rain event thursday is looking to be smaller than expected.
Off of lift six @ whiteface it appears that Parens and Skyward have enough coverage to ski.
 

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K and Sunday River can open up any time they want. They have had the weather the past two weeks and the foot of snow did not hurt.

Maine has NOT had the weather... the guns have been quiet except for the one 'blow for show' that SR had...

They also didn't get ANY snow out of that storm that shined on Killington.

K's got a HUGE head start this year...

-w
 

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Maine has NOT had the weather... the guns have been quiet except for the one 'blow for show' that SR had...

They also didn't get ANY snow out of that storm that shined on Killington.

K's got a HUGE head start this year...

-w

+ 1. Most of the snow we got has melted at mid latitudes. Honestly we have only had one or two nights of marginal temps for snowmaking as well. To say that any resort could be open now is a stretch.
 

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+ 1. Most of the snow we got has melted at mid latitudes. Honestly we have only had one or two nights of marginal temps for snowmaking as well. To say that any resort could be open now is a stretch.


I assumed we all got similar temps. Its been below freezing almost every night in the past two weeks over here. If you did not bring your mums inside at night they have just about had it.
 

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K and Sunday River can open up any time they want. They have had the weather the past two weeks and the foot of snow did not hurt. The rain event thursday is looking to be smaller than expected.
Off of lift six @ whiteface it appears that Parens and Skyward have enough coverage to ski.

Killington could have in theory been open this past weekend. They had at least 3-4 decent overnight snowmaking windows that week, but didn't make snow because they probably "thought it was too early" and were expecting rain, but instaid got 1-2 ft of snow. Not the first time they made bad decisions based on a long term forecast. They also probably didn't have the walkway open.

They old-school killington (with the double) would have been making snow several times last week, and probably would have been open last Tuesday or Wednesday, and easily would have been open last weekend.
 

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I assumed we all got similar temps. Its been below freezing almost every night in the past two weeks over here. If you did not bring your mums inside at night they have just about had it.

Nope, temps has been MUCH better for snowmkaing in central VT than anywhere else in New England. Very strange weather patterns have had warmer temps at more northern latitudes. SR has not had any snow and SL has had very limited and what there was, is gone.

My guess is that there is no lift-services skiing in New England this weekend, sadly. :puke:
 

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There are a few pics from alpinista on TGR from earlier today at K. Doesn't look good for opening this weekend.
 

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I assumed we all got similar temps. Its been below freezing almost every night in the past two weeks over here. If you did not bring your mums inside at night they have just about had it.

Ski areas need more than just a few hours at 32 degrees to make snow.

Also, it was quite windy through Monday.
 

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There are a few pics from alpinista on TGR from earlier today at K. Doesn't look good for opening this weekend.
Doesn't look all that bad. Thin now, but 40 hours of snowmaking can do a lot. They can open SS in under 24 hours from scratch. Still wouldn't be surprised if they pull it off.
 

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There's a big difference between normal snowmaking ops and marginal ops.

QFT....

It can be the difference between barely painting the grass white (night of marginal temps), or creating epic whales night of optimal temps)...

-w
 
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