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Killington is going to open before Sunday River this season.

Vortex

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I'll just give you the money so this will go away. Really don't care. Do you want it to still go to Mhs or you? top to bottom mid station, does not matter in 2 weeks 5 or six places will be open and we will be talking about snow depths not who is open.
 
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Not 100 on the Hil last Sat. Sunday had a good crowd. Got to agree with highwaystar. It does matter to some..... The mountains and the diehards.:fangun:

Average skier maybe not, but its in thier mid earlier. Kind of what marketing is.

I bought passes and a Condo and moved my family furthur north mostly due to the length of Season. Value. Early Season sells well at ski shows. Sell passes.

This will all end when a few places are open, but free marketing dollars at this point.

edit i saw your post threecy. I see your point I don't agree with it. You are not the market they are after. I win I skied. Waiting would not have been as fun. I think those who skied are the oens that matter.

Back in the early 1980's, I picked Killington as my place to do a share house and season pass in large part due to the extended season and snowmaking reputation. In those days, I rarely skied in October since my share house didn't open until November 1 and I rarely skied in May because my share house closed the last weekend in April. I had skied Stowe in college so I was well aware that I had better midwinter options. The problem is that farther north in Vermont is awful when there's a snow drought. I'd experienced some bad snow years when I was at UVM so I understood how bad it can be.

As the years went on, I figured out that April into May was Killington's best product. You can see what happened when POWDR showed up and announced a November 15th opening and an April 15th closing. An awful lot of season pass base that didn't own property in town vanished and took their day ticket friends with them. They ripped a full month of use out of their traditional share house market that has always had a 6 month lease. Other mountains offered a better perceived value. Same season length. Better midwinter skiing surface. Lower prices.

Does anybody here question the value of the free marketing and advertising Sunday River got by opening first? It sells season passes. It gets people to drive up midwinter because Sunday River is the happenin' place. Preston Smith understood that which is why first to open was alway part of the Killington hype machine.
 

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By my sentence, I meant 'out of 730+ posts, 2 skier visits (?) were derived from posters.


I guess i miissed that in the post. I have always liked your posts. I do not always agree, but like another view point. Snowmonster, Maineskier, thaller1, terry, me Riverskier, ga2ski were there they may have dropped in on the thread
 

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#8 checking in. Length of season and mountain managment is the primary reason I bought my silver pass. There is no way I would drop 650 dollars on a pass if I knew the mountain wouldn't deliver!
 

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I'll just give you the money so this will go away. Really don't care. Do you want it to still go to Mhs or you? top to bottom mid station, does not matter in 2 weeks 5 or six places will be open and we will be talking about snow depths not who is open.

No money involved. Bottle of grey goose. Nobody won yet.
 

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I would have been #9 had I not been on the fall end of our biannual visit to see the Mouse. When I booked the week in question, I hedged that SR wouldn't have the luck they did last year and to a degree, I was right. I didn't factor in the Boyne commitment, though, and As we were boarding our plane, the emails were coming in about SR's opening. LOL. :fangun:
 

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No money involved. Bottle of grey goose. Nobody won yet.

Could this mean that someone is about to win?

Killingtonmtn:
"Be the first to know when we're opening for the 2010-11 season! Text KILLINGTON SNOW to 71297."

While I follow the K twitter feed, I'm not going to text the number.
 

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I'd suggest that the first area to open and stay open wins.

does this logic apply to closing dates as well? When the rains come in late season and a mountain closes for a few days to drain or for mid-week operations when the crowds disappear that would signal the end of their season. anything after that would be like an encore.
 

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does this logic apply to closing dates as well? When the rains come in late season and a mountain closes for a few days to drain or for mid-week operations when the crowds disappear that would signal the end of their season. anything after that would be like an encore.
What about when 2knees goes to Magic mid-January and breaks the lift again? Does that count as the closing or the opening?
 

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Just got this e-mail from Mountain Creek. Now they they are no longer owned by Intrawest, they have a partnership with Killington.

Hey Friends!

Our friends at Killington have already been hit with their first two snow storms of the season, have fired their guns up and are getting ready for the start of the season. Opening Day might be just days away… To celebrate we’re giving 5 lucky Mountain Creek Season Pass holders an early-season weekend Getaway to Killington, Vermont. To enter all you have to do is buy your Mountain Creek All Access Passes in the 5-PAK by 11:59PM on Sunday October 31st.
 

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Killington is making snow again all day, per skippy on kzone. Guns set up down bunnybuster. Hopefully top to bottom by this weekend???
 

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Killington is making snow again all day, per skippy on kzone. Guns set up down bunnybuster. Hopefully top to bottom by this weekend???

I just hope they don't do "manage by spreadsheet" once again and decide that they're going to use the walkway rather than blow snow to the bottom.
 

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I just hope they don't do "manage by spreadsheet" once again and decide that they're going to use the walkway rather than blow snow to the bottom.
I'd rather have a little walking and get twice as much terrain. None of it's going to be interesting anyways, might as well get variety of boring and use the walkway for something. And a good park in the mix would be nice.
 

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I'd rather have a little walking and get twice as much terrain. None of it's going to be interesting anyways, might as well get variety of boring and use the walkway for something. And a good park in the mix would be nice.

The Glades trail pod only has two trails plus the Great Northern wrap-around. What "twice as much terrain" are you talking about?
 

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The Glades trail pod only has two trails plus the Great Northern wrap-around. What "twice as much terrain" are you talking about?
If they ran the POMA and had everything accessible from the POMA and NRT open, and not have to worry about wasting capacity on lower Bunny, given that some of it will melt anyways. Just going for the fastest expansion route here, given the first decent run they open is Downdraft or Cascade and that doesn't come until after Ramshead.

Not that it would make any more sense to them or the majority of skiers, just to me.
 

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I just hope they don't do "manage by spreadsheet" once again and decide that they're going to use the walkway rather than blow snow to the bottom.

Have you seen the forecast? Like you said very uncertain, but now talking about INCHES of rain Thursday through Saturday with temps in the 50s... Currently snowmaking window closes Wed morning and that's at 3569'. Calling for basically the same at 2598', but no snowmaking for a while Tuesday afternoon. 36hrs +/- at the base starting tonight right before warm and very rainy weather without snowmaking till Sat night for a short while sounds pretty sketchy. All of course if the current forecast remains the same, but the nws says that the models are converging on this solution. . .

They built the walkway so if the bottom melts out they can stay open up top, with the bottom currently looking like it would melt out if they made snow there I would guess that they will not make any down low. They said they would start out in Northridge and expand to Upper Snowdon and I would expect with this bad forecast that they will stick with this plan. Maybe they are looking at a different forecast though, or hoping things turn around again...

I would have expected top to bottom by the weekend with a good forecast, despite their plan to keep the skiing up high, but not now with the warm and rain that is forecasted, I don't expect it. . .
 
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