Killington is going to open before Sunday River this season.

[threecy]

If you need skilled staff in the winter for lift and groomer maintenance, it's probably hard to find good people that are willing to only work for you half of the year.

A sizable number of ski area maintenance workers in New England collect unemployment every year.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

A sizable number of ski area maintenance workers in New England collect unemployment every year.

What does this mean? It's so vague as to be meaningless.

What proportion collect unemployment? If it's 10%, that could be a sizable number but still by tiny in scheme of things. How long do they collect unemployment for? The entire off-season? Two weeks? What's the impact on their benefits? Is this their primary job?

Shouldn't "insiders" be able to provide a little more detail if they're trying to make a point?

 

[WJenness]

Pic blatently stolen from KZone:

Pic was taken yesterday... Looks like KTon lost 90% (or more) of the snow they made...

Oops...

-w

 

[Highway Star]

Pic blatently stolen from KZone:

Pic was taken yesterday... Looks like KTon lost 90% (or more) of the snow they made...

Oops...

-w

Most of the snow they made would be on Upper Rime and the upper half of Lower Rime, both of which are not easily seen in that pic.

skippysnow, out.

 

[deadheadskier]

What does this mean? It's so vague as to be meaningless.

What proportion collect unemployment? If it's 10%, that could be a sizable number but still by tiny in scheme of things. How long do they collect unemployment for? The entire off-season? Two weeks? What's the impact on their benefits? Is this their primary job?

Shouldn't "insiders" be able to provide a little more detail if they're trying to make a point?

I wouldn't be surprised if I high number of maintenance folks collect in the off season.

This was 15 years ago, but I used to do the ski bum / beach bum life between Cape Cod and Stowe. If my employers filled out a form with their intent to rehire me full time the following summer season, I could've just stayed on the Cape and collected the whole winter. At least that's the way it worked in Mass. I'm not sure if the rules are the same in other states.

I'd say 20% of the full time summer staff chose to remain on the Cape, take the winter off and collect. The rest would either head to Florida to work for the winter or to ski areas.

 

[Geoff]

What does this mean? It's so vague as to be meaningless.

What proportion collect unemployment? If it's 10%, that could be a sizable number but still by tiny in scheme of things. How long do they collect unemployment for? The entire off-season? Two weeks? What's the impact on their benefits? Is this their primary job?

Shouldn't "insiders" be able to provide a little more detail if they're trying to make a point?

Of course it's meaningless.

My point still stands... Firing full time workers and offering them seasonal work at less pay and with no benefits really sucks. For the life of me, I don't understand why ski resort employees don't go union.

 

[mondeo]

Of course it's meaningless.

My point still stands... Firing full time workers and offering them seasonal work at less pay and with no benefits really sucks. For the life of me, I don't understand why ski resort employees don't go union.

Because it would be way too easy to break the union?

 

[Newpylong]

Because it would be way too easy to break the union?

Not really... lol.

 

[Newpylong]

Given the sh!t snow the last few days I guarantee you Rime doesn't look any better than that...

Most of the snow they made would be on Upper Rime and the upper half of Lower Rime, both of which are not easily seen in that pic.

skippysnow, out.

 

[threecy]

What does this mean? It's so vague as to be meaningless.

It's not uncommon to see maintenance workers on unemployment from sometime in April until around Labor Day, for a variety of reasons.

From a worker's perspective, many work 7 day weeks during peak season and some thus look forward to the break.

From a business's perspective, routine off-season work can be completed in the weeks following closing and the three months leading into the season. Also from a business's perspective, some state laws have allowed for overtime laws to be reset upon rehiring in the fall.

 

[KevinS]

It's not uncommon to see maintenance workers on unemployment from sometime in April until around Labor Day, for a variety of reasons.

From a worker's perspective, many work 7 day weeks during peak season and some thus look forward to the break.

From a business's perspective, routine off-season work can be completed in the weeks following closing and the three months leading into the season. Also from a business's perspective, some state laws have allowed for overtime laws to be reset upon rehiring in the fall.

And from the taxpayers perspective, they get to subsidize lower ticket prices for skiers. Sweet!

 

[threecy]

And from the taxpayers perspective, they get to subsidize lower ticket prices for skiers. Sweet!

Well, the ski areas pay a lot of unemployment insurance, but yes, other businesses are subsidizing the unemployment payments routinely made to seasonal ski area employees who collect.

 

[mister moose]

Well, the ski areas pay a lot of unemployment insurance, but yes, other businesses are subsidizing the unemployment payments routinely made to seasonal ski area employees who collect.

What do you base this on?

 

[roark]

Experience Rated Unemployment Insurance is actuarially sound.

 

[Highway Star]

They are deleting posts off the killington blog about the storm and attempted opening........lol.

http://www.killingtonzone.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30721&start=0

 

[AdironRider]

There is no subsidy for unemployment. It is all paid by the company you work for.

Seasonal resorts pay insane amounts of unemployment insurance. I know most of the places around Jackson encourage their employees to use unemployment. Since they pay so much, they at least want their employees to use it.

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

What do you base this on?

I would guess this to be true, but all companies "subsidize" other companies in terms of unemployment benefits. Not sure about now, but in the past I think unemployment insurance has run pretty effectively....which is saying something considering the gov administers it.

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

There is no subsidy for unemployment. It is all paid by the company you work for.

Seasonal resorts pay insane amounts of unemployment insurance. I know most of the places around Jackson encourage their employees to use unemployment. Since they pay so much, they at least want their employees to use it.

I don't think it's all paid by the company you work for. Unemployment insurance that every company pays is basically pooled together so when the time is needed the unemployed can be covered. So each company that is not laying people off is in a sense subsidizing another company. Granted I think it's safe to say that each company paying into this will at some point have an employee or many employees use such insurance.

 

[mondeo]

I don't think it's all paid by the company you work for. Unemployment insurance that every company pays is basically pooled together so when the time is needed the unemployed can be covered. So each company that is not laying people off is in a sense subsidizing another company. Granted I think it's safe to say that each company paying into this will at some point have an employee or many employees use such insurance.

Unemployment is largely state run, and can vary a bit from state to state:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_compensation#United_States

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

Unemployment is largely state run, and can vary a bit from state to state:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_compensation#United_States

I understand it is state run, but I was just pointing out that the company that a person works for does not singularly pay for your unemployment, all companies contribute, although I guess if you worked for a company for 15 or 20 years and you were the only person to be laid of during that time you could look at it like your company paid for you. As for it being state run, that is true, but like right now the feds are pumping a large amount of money into states Unemployment funds.