dlague
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We all need to get along and give each other some slack...
yup
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We all need to get along and give each other some slack...
Boy it has been a tough ski season when we get 9 pages of this during the first epic frozen participation of the season.
so to sum it up we all know that snowboarders can only see one direction so don't approach them heel side and not only was the skier an ass but he had plenty of time to avoid the snowboarder and prevent all the problems
I don't think that you need to get nasty with me..
I have a lot of common sense.
I'm a very experienced rider/skier/telemarker..
I'm AIARE Level 2 certified..
I've skied routes on 5 continents...
And have only been in one real ski accident..
With such an impressive resume I'm surprised to hear you think it's cool to dart out of the woods and completely cross a trail after barely looking up. But anyways, hardly a major infraction and like I originally said, it made them both look bad...especially the skiers attitude.
It looks like a runout... A mixed use trail..
it could be called that locally.. But kids tend to like runout trails... they are flat and fun..
Watch the video at 00:14 he looks up - no skier...
Please, go try to cross a icy highway with a blindfold on sometime and let us know how it goes.
Oh. My. God. You are probably going to die skiing some day.
Did you read the thread? You know, where it was posted that this is EXCLUSIVELY a runout from blue and black (presumably high speed cruising) trails? This is like cutting directly across the travel path on Great Northern or Launch Pad - fast traverses where people can hit 30+ mph in the right conditions. Furthermore, he certainly did NOT look at 0:14 in the video, he's just flailing around like a gaper as he struggles to get up. Not paying any attention up hill AT ALL.
Furthermore, it looks like he's virtually on the trail when he starts, and he then just blindly cuts straight across it. That's a FLAGRANT VIOLATION of #4 of the skiers code. Point #2 indicates that you should be able to avoid people ahead of you who are traveling or stop. NOT people who randomly cut into a trail from a stop without looking.
Please, go try to cross a highway with a blindfold on sometime and let us know how it goes.
nothing about this is funny...
As a reader, everything about this is funny.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?
Great Northern was a green up until last year and is specifically mentioned on the trail map as an easier way to get down (as well as signs on the mountain). There will be beginners that ski slow, make erratic movements, and don't always follow the code. Seems to me if you can't deal with them then skiing wouldn't be much fun. Just look at that guy in the video. The ones that worry me are the ones that can't stop or might plow into me or my wife while we are stopped on the side of the trail. Unfortunately for Killington there are few trails that you can rip down without worrying about cross trails or other skiers. At least the masses and the beginners help make season passes cheaper.
Rules of the internet?
The incident on video was, actually a non-incident. The reaction here is over-serious to the point of hilarious.
Rules of the internet?
The incident on video was, actually a non-incident. The reaction here is over-serious to the point of hilarious.
I deal with GN every year early season, and all the traverses at Killington throughout the year. Quite effectively, thank you. Never once on those have I had someone at a dead stop randomly cut across the trail. If they did, I'd stop and yell at them.
However, one of the scariest near misses I've had was at the runout of Double Dipper, at the start of Spillway about half way between the end of Lower East fall and Royal Flush. This is a flattish area of the trail, about 90-100 ft wide. A group of about a half dozen people had stopped about a third of the way from the left of the trail, and one person about a third from the right side. About 30+ ft between them. I'm cruising down after skiing one of the trails (only black and double black trail funnel into this area), maybe 35 to 40 mph, normal speed for that runout. I have a clean line with no other hazards directly between the stopped people. At the last second, the person at right pushes off aggressively to join their friends on the left, without looking up hill AT ALL. I let out a quick yelp, make a quick edge set carve to the left and thread the needle exactly, about 15 ft gap between them.
Had I not left enough of a buffer, been skiing beyond my ability to make a quick correction (never), had poorly maintained equipment (i'm an ex shop tech), or any other factors, things would have ended much more badly. I've since dialed it back a few mph in that area if there are any people. I didn't stop to chat, but if something like that ever happens again, I will certainly stop and scream at the person.
It was a Big Lebowski reference.
This isn't Nam, there are rules
that sequence
Haha I don't want to be all serious because this whole thing has been cracking me up, but I took a video going down east fall and into that runoff and there are two "slow" signs in that exact spot.
Nobody pays any heed to the slow signs at the bottom of expert trails at Killington, and there is absolutely no enforcement. I was skiing only a small percentage faster than the vast majority of people who come through there. If you ski that area too slowly, say 10-15mph, you stand a very good chance of being hit from behind, like a friend of mine was a few years back - exactly at that spot, making linked medium sized turns at too slow a speed.