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I don't understand the point of a chondola (or telemix). I've never seen one, but it seems odd. Are there people who will pass on getting in a chair and wait for the gondola car like people waiting for front-row at a rollerocoaster?
Only rode a chondola one day at MT. Orford in Quebec. There were no lines that day so I couldn't tell.
 

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The purpose of the Chondola at SR is not for any skiing benefit its for providing a sheltered travel to the North Peak lodge both in winter for dining events and summer for weddings and scenic rides.
 

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The purpose of the Chondola at SR is not for any skiing benefit its for providing a sheltered travel to the North Peak lodge both in winter for dining events and summer for weddings and scenic rides.

A chondola at Wildcat is ridiculous. Gondola cars are even more wind prone which is one reason it will never happen.


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I think the chondola has worked well for SR. As DHSkier said, it is dual purpose both for skiing and transportation. You don't use it that much when skiing other than to get out of South Ridge base. Can always take lift 2 to 6 if you want to avoid it. North Peak runs a lot more now with the terrain park over there.
 

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I've been on the ones at Orford and SR. The gondola always seems to take longer as I recall because there are more chairs on the line. The day I asked Orford, the lift was put on wind gold around mid day. When the lift was spinning, there was a pretty long gondola ride while the chair side was ski on.
 

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I think it would be useful to truncate the top 200-300 yards of the freezer where it goes over that ridge and the wind hits you full force, to minimize wind holds. You don't really gain any vertical, in fact it almost feels like you lose it.
I highly doubt that they would be willing to lose access to the Northway trail from the Bonnie chair.
 

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Ski Sundown should replace the Exhibition Triple with at least a 6-pack bubble.
 

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Who said anything about the Bonnie chair?
These people:

Jay needs to replace the bonnie with a high speed lift. There is a ton of good glades, powerline and several other fun trails that can be accessed from the chair but it's so damn slow. The Jet is pretty slow and old as well.

I can't remember how long the ride on the Bonnie actually was, but it always felt like a 15 minute ride. Maybe because you can see the whole length of the lift vs lifts where the topology hides the top portions.

I think it would be useful to truncate the top 200-300 yards of the freezer where it goes over that ridge and the wind hits you full force, to minimize wind holds. You don't really gain any vertical, in fact it almost feels like you lose it.

Yeah Bomnie has been on the replacement list for a while. At least put a conveyor in to speed it up.

It's a lot more than 200-300 yards I believe. You would lose a lot of fun glades like Everglade, Staircase, BP, and AP when the Tram is down.

You know what I'm talking about, the flat, almost downhill portion at the top.

I know this seems far fetched but that would minimize a lot of wind holds, surface lift would ensure you could still access the same terrain.
 

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I did mention the Bonnie, but not shortening it. I was talking about the flyer
 

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A chondola at Wildcat is ridiculous. Gondola cars are even more wind prone which is one reason it will never happen.

I agree wintertime gondola cars would be a bad idea at Wildcat.

I don't like the summer gondola either. If I'm going to take a summertime lift ride to the top of a mountain, which is rare because I'm inclined to hike but hypothetically, Id much rather ride an open chair than an enclosed gondola.
 

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Jay needs to replace the bonnie with a high speed lift. There is a ton of good glades, powerline and several other fun trails that can be accessed from the chair but it's so damn slow. The Jet is pretty slow and old as well.

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I've ridden the one at Sunday River and its setup is pretty straightforward. Gondola people have their own line, chair people have their line. At no point are the two lines merged. They both have separate entry points. After that its just like a normal chairlift or gondola. If there's a gondola entering the terminal, then the gates for the chair people stay closed. If there's a chair, then gondola people stay put.

Like yourself, I was a doubter in the convenience of a chondola, but it's really nice to have the option. The chondola concept works great when you have people who are lapping the lift and would like the convenience of keeping on their skis instead of taking them off each run. But if you're coming out of the lodge then you can take a gondola instead of wasting time putting on your skis.

We have ridden the chondola both ways! It was on a near zero degree day with wind. So the gondola was a little relief with out heading into the lodge - line was short too!


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You know what I'm talking about, the flat, almost downhill portion at the top.

I know this seems far fetched but that would minimize a lot of wind holds, surface lift would ensure you could still access the same terrain.

I know exactly what your talking about but I think you are underestimating how far it is from that spot to the end of the lift.
 

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In most instances, it seems this thread should be renamed, "Lifts people want replaced", rather than "need" replacement.
 
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