billski
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OUTSTANDING! ULLR HAS HELPED, BUT JIM AND CREW HAVE DONE ALL THE WORK. THANK YOU FOR DOUBLING DOWN AND GETTING A LIFT TWOFER. IF YOU'RE OPEN ON FRIDAY, I'LL BE THERE... CROSS SKI TIPS...
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Magic's Red Chair down again!
- Thread starter Smellytele
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So I just read these updates from the mountain. A whole load test is going to take at least a day for the Red Chair. Now hearing about the grips on the Black is not good at all and that will be time consuming. It looks like at least a week for them. Hopefully they will not lose MLK Weekend because that would really set them back.
billski
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Please consider sending stephen.monahan@state.vt.us of the Vermont Passenger Tramway Division appreciation for making re-inspection a priority. I have.
billski
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I wonder if having help filling and emptying the barrels would speed things up.
AdironRider
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So admittantly Im still catching up on this thread, but they didnt cover these load test issues back in the fall? Or is this just a reissue now that they have had a problem?
Either way, bad management.
Either way, bad management.
Possibly. Depends if they have more than one hydrant to fill the barrels and if they have the barrels handy or if they have to go all over the mountain to get them. Good idea. Contact Magic and ask.
It's a reissue.
billski
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I'm not so quick to call it bad management. I tested my sump pump before the rains in the spring. I check monthly. Is it my bad management if the pump fails halfway through the year?
1002.9 Brake Testing
All brakes shall be torque tested at an interval not to exceed 30 days of operation.
A brake testing log shall be posted at each drive which will give the most recent test results, the date, and shall be signed by the person performing the test on all brakes.
All dynamometers and torque wrenches used for brake adjustment shall be calibrated annually and the documentation shall be posted in the brake testing log.
http://labor.vermont.gov/Default.aspx?tabid=203
http://labor.vermont.gov/Default.aspx?tabid=207
A brake failure is a pretty substantial issue and if the rules you cite apply then they should have had at least
some advanced notice that the system was going to fail.
steamboat1
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They did a load test on the Canyon chair at K last month. It took a couple of days to set everything up with barrels but only took one day to perform the actual test. I'd assume it would take the same amount of time at Magic. Actually it might be easier at Magic because the chair is at the base of the mountain already unlike the Canyon chair starting halfway up the hill. I can see them getting it done before next weekend.
steamboat1
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I don't think so because the barrels are filled after they are placed on the lift. Only so much room to fill two barrels while they're sitting on a double chair. That's assuming they're using two barrels as they did on the Canyon quad. A double chair might only require one barrel on each chair.
slatham
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Latest update from the Magic Web Site:
Thursday Update:
Magic is projected to re-open on Saturday January 5th.
The Red Chair repair is progressing well with the new brake part installed and the lift running. Friday will be the load test and inspection conducted by Magic and the state of Vermont lift inspector where barrels of water will be placed on the chairs and a battery of tests conducted. Once the Red Chair passes certification on Friday we will be open for skiers and riders on Saturday.
On the Black chair, the lift inspector approved a process to be performed on each grip which will allow the chairs to swing freely (a requirement for the lift to pass inspection). With approval of that process the work on that task has begun on every chair which will take some time but we are working to complete it quickly within a week for inspection.
Now that there is enough machine-made snow for the Beginner tow and Tube Park, the lift tracks can be groomed out today and angled properly for safety purposes so they can be inspected on Friday as well for opening this Saturday.
When we re-open we will have over 90% of our terrain open. Thank you for your patience and we hope to see you here this weekend.
Thursday Update:
Magic is projected to re-open on Saturday January 5th.
The Red Chair repair is progressing well with the new brake part installed and the lift running. Friday will be the load test and inspection conducted by Magic and the state of Vermont lift inspector where barrels of water will be placed on the chairs and a battery of tests conducted. Once the Red Chair passes certification on Friday we will be open for skiers and riders on Saturday.
On the Black chair, the lift inspector approved a process to be performed on each grip which will allow the chairs to swing freely (a requirement for the lift to pass inspection). With approval of that process the work on that task has begun on every chair which will take some time but we are working to complete it quickly within a week for inspection.
Now that there is enough machine-made snow for the Beginner tow and Tube Park, the lift tracks can be groomed out today and angled properly for safety purposes so they can be inspected on Friday as well for opening this Saturday.
When we re-open we will have over 90% of our terrain open. Thank you for your patience and we hope to see you here this weekend.
billski
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Does it have an equivalent amount of uphill capacity (i.e., nr. of chairs)?
steamboat1
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I don't understand your question billski. The reason they had to load test the Canyon chair is because they put some kind of new counter balance system on the lift.
No. The Canyon Quad and the Red are not very similar. As Steamboat said the Canyon Quad took two barrels per chair so maybe a double only needs one barrel per chair.
Just saw that the Red is up and that the load test is tomorrow. Hopefully there are no other problems.
billski
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Going to Magic this Saturday, 1/5
steamboat1
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Will you be at Stowe next Wed.-Fri. for ski club appreciation days?
I'm planning on being there Wed. & Thurs.
gmcunni
Active member
how do you feel about this? i guess the reality is if you own a place and have a pass you LOVE magic so you* won't hate on them. did you ski elsewhere, just hang out or head home early?
* don't mean you specifically
jrmagic
New member
I do have a place and love the mountain so you're right I won't hate on them but of course I was seriously dissapointed. I did get to ski a lot on the 27th-29th and I got one run on on the 30th during the brief period the lift was loaded. We loaded up the boys on the 31st and hit Mt. Ellen instead. I'm not sure what to make of the compensation though. Personally I would have preferred they give me a free drink in the bar and a sincere apology instead. Giving away that many free tickets just hurts the revenue stream. I think many other passholders would feel the same way. Obviously vouchers were in order for non pass holders though.
makimono
Member
I appreciate it...it's more than I expected, I would have been happy with a burger and a Heady Topper.
On Sunday I had just finished booting up and was heading to the lift when they called it done for the day (that was about 9:30). Ended up snowshoeing to the top :blink: and making one run and then heading home early. I'm really glad I brought the snowshoes and backpack as a contingency plan, haven't hiked for turns in a long while and I had fun doing it once my legs stfu and got to work.
This was what I was thinking...co-op owners don't want to see the loss of revenue from the broken lift and then the throwing of good money after bad with these vouchers. It's a tough place to be in.
