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Meatheads new movie

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I just got an e-mail from Chris at Meathead films about something I wanted buy, and he also mentioned that the new movie is coming along great. The only thing he would say is that it is going to revolve around the power of the East Coast Weather....Sounds sweet.
 

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riverc0il said:
I hope it is this seasons weather. Plenty of epic days and powder to make a feature film. Plenty.

Agreed. It will show everyone that complained the whole winter that it wasn't actually that bad.
 

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riverc0il said:
I hope it is this seasons weather. Plenty of epic days and powder to make a feature film. Plenty.

We must be talking about two different seasons then.

There was some snow here and there, but overall it was not good.

In a breakdown from my end,

October was great for those that got out.
November was good.
December was good.
First part of January was very good.
Most of January and all of February featured thaws, rains, and lack of snow. Not good.
March was mediocre to good. Weak start. Two weeks or so of good snow. Good visits to Stowe, Stratton.
April was good.
May was good.

And IIRC riv was not skiing for the period between December through Mid-March, when it was the worst generally.

Still, overall below normal. Consistency of snowpack was zero. And we never did get in excess of 6 inches that stayed for any significant time. So I would not say that the season was "epic."
 
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Nope, we are talking about the same season. Average snow fall, you just had to take advantage when it fell. I think I got just as many powder days this season as last season despite skiing fewer days. Reality is the snow was there if you could take advantage of it. Just because most folks did not take advantage of the snow that fell does not mean there were not some EPIC days to be had this year. I am sure the new meatheads movie this Fall will prove that in visuals, though I have more than enough experienve of epic days this season to vouch for good snow... and as everyone is aware, I value quality and would not suggest this season had lots of great epic days if it was not the case.
 

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Perhaps the season was good in number of powder days, which is great for people who can get out easily at any time. But it was not good, IMO, in average base depths, especially during the months where you would most expect a base. I skied Killington in late Jan. and mid Feb., and SB in late Feb., and there just wasn't much snow around. At SB I was lucky to catch a big storm--it snowed about 2 feet between Thurs and Sun (I was there Sat-Sun), so everything opened up. But the base was very thin. I lucked out then that I was still able to ski what I liked. At Killington I didn't luck out, and there was almost no natural stuff open. I can't call it a good season where you go skiing in those months and have almost no natural terrain. I'm not speaking of powder days, just coverage.
 

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CERTAIN places in the east were hit hard this season... other ski season on the other hand such as Black Mountain of NH hardly got a significant snow dump all season and never really had more than 50% of their terrain open...

Although I will admit there were some great days this season such as random knee deep snow @ Jay Peak.


Great news about the new film though, I am sure it will be great!!!!!!!
 

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I can't call it a good season where you go skiing in those months and have almost no natural terrain. I'm not speaking of powder days, just coverage.
many places had great coverage this season. just because one place doesn't have good base doesn't mean it was a bad season for all areas. one of my favorite ski areas is cannon. but i only skied there once lift serviced this season because the base wasn't there (three powder days hiking, btw, two over a foot deep). you gotta adjust your plans accordingly which is why i am leaning on not buying a season pass next season. i realized this season how important opportunity is. if having great ski days is important to you, you need to figure out a way to adjust your life to capitolize. it all comes down to how bad you want it and what your perceptions are.

part of the problem here is, in a very bob R type way (cheers man for always being so damn positive), i doubt i could possibly have a bad season, so i guess i have to fully admit i am biased in my perspective. heck, i was out for three months and broke my arm but still thought it was a great season.
 

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Aside from northern VT, perhaps, what places had great coverage from mid-January through the end of the season?

About adjusting plans accordingly, it's a lot different when you live up in ski country than when you live in NYC without a car. While I had more free time this season than I'll probably have for numerous ski seasons to come, and I'll admit that I didn't take advantage of every opportunity so I should get some of the blame, it's not easy, nor cheap, for me to get away.
 

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Well, I'm looking forward to the movie. I always enjoy their work. Mullets rock!

Back to the hijacking:

I don't live in ski country and still have managed to get some great days in this season, including some great days BC (including Monday.)

It was a great season, just not a great January/early February and not so great on weekends.
 

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you don't have to live in ski season to capitalize. i used to live in boston area, 2-4 hours from the good ski areas and still managed to take vacation days and capitalize in previous seasons. not having a car definitely makes it hard to capitalize, but those are the life style choices we make that dictate how much we get to enjoy the ski season.

Aside from northern VT, perhaps, what places had great coverage from mid-January through the end of the season?
i dunno how saddleback did mid-january, but they were just about fully open with plenty of day old powder on april 6th and closed down just about fully open a week and a half later. unreal. tuckerman is about average right now and still going strong though going quick (hey, it's may, what can you expect). mid-december through february was tough for most ski areas, but october, november, early december, and much of march was killer all accross the higher elevations. two and a half months blew chunks, but in a normal year, october through mid-january is normally a write off in terms of natural terrain. but this season, i hardly skied a groomer prior to my injury mid-december. natural terrain was off the hook early season, crazy powder days left and right, i racked up 8 of them before going on the D/L.
 

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riverc0il said:
you don't have to live in ski season to capitalize. i used to live in boston area, 2-4 hours from the good ski areas and still managed to take vacation days and capitalize in previous seasons. not having a car definitely makes it hard to capitalize, but those are the life style choices we make that dictate how much we get to enjoy the ski season.

2 hours is very doable in a day trip -- even Hunter is over 2 hours for me, forget about New England skiing. While I've never lived in Boston, I'd suspect it's much easier for skiing than NYC. But the lack of car is the bigger issue for me. I realize it's a life choice. The reason I mentioned it is that it leads us to judge how good a season is in different ways. You'll judge by the number of powder days, while I'll judge by the consistancy of the base and general surface (i.e., icy vs. soft, not necessary deep snow), because you have much more freedom in choosing the days you ski. By the way I judge the season--which from other's posts on this board is not an uncommon way at all--it was a disappointing season.


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much of march was killer all accross the higher elevations. two and a half months blew chunks, but in a normal year, october through mid-january is normally a write off in terms of natural terrain. but this season, i hardly skied a groomer prior to my injury mid-december. natural terrain was off the hook early season, crazy powder days left and right, i racked up 8 of them before going on the D/L.

I had 4 very fun days in Dec., 2 at SB and 2 at Jay. Those 2 days at Jay in late Dec. had the deepest snow I had all year. I had 4 at Killington in Jan-Feb, and 2 at SB in late Feb. Killington had almost no natural snow trails. Nothing at all the first weekend; 1 run on a very thin Big Dipper the second weekend. SB was lots of fun since I had new snow, but the base was poor - Castlerock was very thin. The woods off Paradise skied remarkably well for the thin cover elsewhere, though. But not as much snow as Jay had in late Dec. It seems like this is in line with your report, and the time that "blew chunks" was the time that you unfortunately had to sit out due to your injury. It also happens to be 2 of the 3 biggest ski months (along with March). I realize things improved somewhat in March, but unfortunately I didn't make it out. But Jan-Feb were bad enough that I have to classify this as a below average year.

Hopefully my season will be reprieved when I have my week in Chile in August. I'm really looking forward to it. While I never feel like I had enough skiing in any season, this year more than ever I feel unsatisfied. That's not just because I felt it was a poor year conditions wise, but also because I missed what is generally the peak time of the year to ski (March).
 

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Just the opinion of this humble narrator, but if you you can shell out $$ for a week in Chile (which is more than I spent on 35 days of skiing so far this season), your license to bitch about this season has hereby been revoked.
 

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riverc0il said:
I hope it is this seasons weather. Plenty of epic days and powder to make a feature film. Plenty.

I agree with this statement. I guess I was one of the lucky few that had an abundance of powder days this season and never went more than a week and half with out having a good pow day. yes, I only live 15 minutes to Jay and can ski midweek, but it was definatly out there and some mega deep days thrown in their too. It was the season of lake effect snow, thanks in part to the big ones never freezing, their were mostly a bunch of unadvertised, localized, surprise storms that yielded some phenomenal pow days with no crowds. things really bounced back and forth week to week and a lot of the rains came right before or during the weekends, but as soon as you knew it was dumping again.
I'm sure the meatheads had plenty of opportunity to put together some quality pow segments, and I would expect them to deliver.
 

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Except at Jay the pow fell onto rocks everytime it snowed. While this made for pow days, there were still a ton of rocks exposed and the base depths in the trees were pitiful at Smuggs (which got 300" - but a ton of rain too). Overall, this season gets a big thumbs down.
 

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sledhaulingmedic said:
Just the opinion of this humble narrator, but if you you can shell out $$ for a week in Chile (which is more than I spent on 35 days of skiing so far this season), your license to bitch about this season has hereby been revoked.

I am getting the cheapest lodging which means my skiing+food+lodging comes to $540 for the entire week. The plane ticket is expensive, but this is also my "bar trip." The whole trip will hopefully be not too much over $2000. I am graduating law school now and taking the bar in July. While I will be doing well in the fall, I have a ton of loans, and also have been on a student budget without a regular income. It's tradition to go on big trips before we become slaves working at law firms, and I've been saving to do so.

For me to get away for a weekend in NY, I'd have to rent a car (over $200 for a weekend just for the rental even for a small car, and then I might have a problem of where to put my skis, and that's before any potential additional fees for being under 25 which I was until earlier this week) or take a train. Then there's gas, lodging, and tickets. Since I'd be going with someone else, a lot would be split, but even with great skiing/lodging deals, it adds up, and doing better than $250 for a weekend would probably be a success. So that's $125/day. I'd spend way more money if I were to have skied as much as you did this year than I am on my week to Chile.

Aside from that, what position are you in to "revoke" my "license." You have no idea about my financial status, and since you were a patroller at Magic (unless I'm confusing you with someone else), I suspect you don't live in NYC without a car. I can "bitch" about this season, because during some of the peak months, there was very little base. That has been confirmed by a number of posters here. And that is true regardless of how much money I may or may not have, making your comment (and much of my post responding to your comment), somewhat irrelevant. What is true, is that it very likely is not as easy for me to get away as it is for you, and that given that, I can't take advantage of powder days. I never disputed that this season didn't have powder days. I made it very clear that I judge my seasons by a different standard, one that many people seem to share.
 
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