Mt snow bluebird

[deadheadskier]

I would love this too--but they would never do this--there would be soooo many more wind-holds (and that chair is already way low to the ground as it is--they'd have to basically make it as low as a T-bar lol)

If I'm not mistaken, the Bluebird is supposed to run better in the wind than a normal high speed chair. At least, that's what Dr. Jeff mentioned earlier in the thread. That seems counter intuitive to me though. You would think the Bubble would just act like a sail in the wind.

 

[SKI-3PO]

Wind affected chairs: http://www.krtv.com/news/strong-winds-close-bridger-bowl-ski-area-video-/

 

[Euler]

How to Properly Feed a Troll:
Trolls will wander into any community from time to time. The larger and more diverse the community, the more likely they are to appear, AND the harder they are to properly identify. Once they appear, they must be dealt with in such a way that both protects the community at large and mitigates the damages the troll can cause before it moves on.
1. Number One Rule – BE NICE! Kill it with kindness. If all the members are kind and patient with the troll, then it receives no nourishment and gains no foothold with which to establish itself. It may scramble a little harder after being hit with a round of sheer niceness, but eventually, it will feel starved for real entertainment and move on to riper fields. This action also has a critical added benefit of making sure the similar but innocent species get the help and acceptance they need and builds the overall good reputation of the community.
2. Ignore them. This can be very difficult, but for some it’s the only alternative to the impossible task of being nice. If the trolls are ignored, that will also contribute to a rapid starvation and will have them quickly moving on. And, if one isn’t poking sticks at the trolls, then one isn’t at risk of accidentally poking an innocent with the same stick.
3. PRIVATELY alert the Community Leaders. If one suspects a troll, the best way to express that is in private to a moderator or site administrator. They have tools at their disposal that the rest of the community does not have. They can, and will, use these tools to both identify, and root out if necessary, any genuine trolls.
FEED THE TROLLS!!! Feed them kindness, patience, and compassion. They can’t stomach it and will quickly move on to other hunting grounds. Anyother food source, even the war-cry of “Do Not Feed the Trolls” is not only pure enjoyment for them, it is, in the long run, harmful to the very community it wishes to protect.

from: http://thereptilereport.com/the-care-and-feeding-of-trolls/

 

[Wavewheeler]

I don't go to Mount Snow but I be liking the idea of a bubble chair. With all that you can complain about why complain about something like this? :-?

 

[Snowlover]

I don't go to Mount Snow but I be liking the idea of a bubble chair. With all that you can complain about why complain about something like this? :-?

Is it really that much a mystery? I was bored and went to mt snow website and saw this video on bubble chair and it mentioned it cost 8 million and then thought about the obscene lift ticket prices and realized that's the crap I'm paying for.

 

[Snowlover]

How to Properly Feed a Troll:
Trolls will wander into any community from time to time. The larger and more diverse the community, the more likely they are to appear, AND the harder they are to properly identify. Once they appear, they must be dealt with in such a way that both protects the community at large and mitigates the damages the troll can cause before it moves on.
1. Number One Rule – BE NICE! Kill it with kindness. If all the members are kind and patient with the troll, then it receives no nourishment and gains no foothold with which to establish itself. It may scramble a little harder after being hit with a round of sheer niceness, but eventually, it will feel starved for real entertainment and move on to riper fields. This action also has a critical added benefit of making sure the similar but innocent species get the help and acceptance they need and builds the overall good reputation of the community.
2. Ignore them. This can be very difficult, but for some it’s the only alternative to the impossible task of being nice. If the trolls are ignored, that will also contribute to a rapid starvation and will have them quickly moving on. And, if one isn’t poking sticks at the trolls, then one isn’t at risk of accidentally poking an innocent with the same stick.
3. PRIVATELY alert the Community Leaders. If one suspects a troll, the best way to express that is in private to a moderator or site administrator. They have tools at their disposal that the rest of the community does not have. They can, and will, use these tools to both identify, and root out if necessary, any genuine trolls.
FEED THE TROLLS!!! Feed them kindness, patience, and compassion. They can’t stomach it and will quickly move on to other hunting grounds. Anyother food source, even the war-cry of “Do Not Feed the Trolls” is not only pure enjoyment for them, it is, in the long run, harmful to the very community it wishes to protect.

from: http://thereptilereport.com/the-care-and-feeding-of-trolls/

Honestly, if you guys were nice I'd still be posting the exact same stuff.(just without some personal attacks I laid out before when provoked) I like posting my opinion. The fact that the majority of members think I'm a troll says a lot about your logic or lack thereof and is just another way you guys are wrong about many topics

 

[Wavewheeler]

Is it really that much a mystery? I was bored and went to mt snow website and saw this video on bubble chair and it mentioned it cost 8 million and then thought about the obscene lift ticket prices and realized that's the crap I'm paying for.

But have you actually gone on it? To many, it may very well be worth the money.

It's when I don't feel that I get my money's worth that I get pissed off. The bubble chair looks like it would be a good thing and you are going to pay big bucks to go to a resort then at least it's nice to see the resort investing in things that make the skiing more pleasant. Not freezing to death on a lift sounds good to me.

 

[BenedictGomez]

How to Properly Feed a Troll:
Trolls will wander into any community from time to time. The larger and more diverse the community, the more likely they are to appear, AND the harder they are to properly identify. Once they appear, they must be dealt with in such a way that both protects the community at large and mitigates the damages the troll can cause before it moves on.
1. Number One Rule – BE NICE! Kill it with kindness. If all the members are kind and patient with the troll, then it receives no nourishment and gains no foothold with which to establish itself. It may scramble a little harder after being hit with a round of sheer niceness, but eventually, it will feel starved for real entertainment and move on to riper fields. This action also has a critical added benefit of making sure the similar but innocent species get the help and acceptance they need and builds the overall good reputation of the community.
2. Ignore them. This can be very difficult, but for some it’s the only alternative to the impossible task of being nice. If the trolls are ignored, that will also contribute to a rapid starvation and will have them quickly moving on. And, if one isn’t poking sticks at the trolls, then one isn’t at risk of accidentally poking an innocent with the same stick.
3. PRIVATELY alert the Community Leaders. If one suspects a troll, the best way to express that is in private to a moderator or site administrator. They have tools at their disposal that the rest of the community does not have. They can, and will, use these tools to both identify, and root out if necessary, any genuine trolls.
FEED THE TROLLS!!! Feed them kindness, patience, and compassion. They can’t stomach it and will quickly move on to other hunting grounds. Anyother food source, even the war-cry of “Do Not Feed the Trolls” is not only pure enjoyment for them, it is, in the long run, harmful to the very community it wishes to protect.

from: http://thereptilereport.com/the-care-and-feeding-of-trolls/

That was brilliant.

To many, it may very well be worth the money.

It's when I don't feel that I get my money's worth that I get pissed off. The bubble chair looks like it would be a good thing and you are going to pay big bucks to go to a resort then at least it's nice to see the resort investing in things that make the skiing more pleasant. Not freezing to death on a lift sounds good to me. :wink:

You have to consider that place's clientele, and when you do, it makes perfect sense. The Mount Snow and Stratton skiers of the world tend to want the coddling, "finer things", and "experience", etc... If they were solely interested in skiing, lets face it, they wouldnt ski there, they'd suck-it-up and drive a few more hours each way. And lets be honest for a moment, often it's the skier's wives that are calling these shots, and I bet a lot of those skier's wives LOVE the bubble's warmth and wind-protection. If you think about how long this lift will last, and it's ability to cater to the clientele, I think Mount Snow is probably 100% correct in this decision and I feel pretty confident the ROI is there.

 

[billski]

You would think the Bubble would just act like a sail in the wind.

Not knowing much, I'd say it should perform like a sail when left open. The bubbles close automatically for the trip down.

 

[Madroch]

Couldn't read all this.. But I'll feed the troll.. Love the bubble- it is THE reason I went to snow a few weeks back when it was really cold and marginal snow- could have gone to okemo with more trails- still marginal snow- but more options- I like snow for the family- but when flying solo i rarely if ever go there unless it jackpotted on a particular storm and magic somehow didn't or if I need to stay close to home and can't hit northern vt----since the bubble I do so more often if it is cold or raining the I ever did before. So it got a portion of my business snow had previously lost back.

Call me a p&ssy or a yuppie fine.. I'm too old
To pretend I don't appreciate being more
Comfortable on a lift--- sure ill suffer wind and cold for good snow on better terrain- but not for machines made with no natty trails
Open anywhere.

 

[Snowlover]

If you think about how long this lift will last, and it's ability to cater to the clientele, I think Mount Snow is probably 100% correct in this decision and I feel pretty confident the ROI is there.

Business wise? Yes right decision for rich nyc metro clientele. They'll get their ROI based on the fact that's a big resort.

Let me put it this way.....simply

I WISH mt snow was not a resort and just simply was old school and catered to skiers. So that's why I'm bitching about bubble chairs and shit.

 

[Snowlover]

Couldn't read all this.. But I'll feed the troll.. Love the bubble- it is THE reason I went to snow a few weeks back when it was really cold and marginal snow- could have gone to okemo with more trails- still marginal snow- but more options- I like snow for the family- but when flying solo i rarely if ever go there unless it jackpotted on a particular storm and magic somehow didn't or if I need to stay close to home and can't hit northern vt----since the bubble I do so more often if it is cold or raining the I ever did before. So it got a portion of my business snow had previously lost back.

Call me a p&ssy or a yuppie fine.. I'm too old
To pretend I don't appreciate being more
Comfortable on a lift--- sure ill suffer wind and cold for good snow on better terrain- but not for machines made with no natty trails
Open anywhere.

The p&ssy comment was a joke.
I don't like to be freezing cold either to be honest, who does? Just don't want to pay up the ass to stay warm.

 

[Snowlover]

That was brilliant If they were solely interested in skiing, lets face it, they wouldnt ski there, they'd suck-it-up and drive a few more hours each way. .

Oh yeah real brilliant. Harvard should give him a scholarship
I wouldn't suck it up a drive a few more hours and I'm just interested in skiing. I'm sorry, but hour and hours of driving is exhausting after/before then skiing for hours. I don't have the energy for that. I want to enjoy myself not half kill myself.

 

[Wavewheeler]

If I'm going to ski and just ski I don't much care about amenities. When I go by myself to ski I'll sleep in a dump of a hotel and live on junk food to get in as much skiing as I can.

But if I'm taking my family on a trip up to Vermont and staying multiple days then I want a variety of things. I want a nice hotel, good food and a nice overall skiing experience. I don't mind paying a bit extra if I have to, as long as I feel I'm getting what I paid for.

I think Mount Snow knows what and who they are catering to and are investing in what they think can bring in more business. And let's face it, yuppies have money and spend it and they want and expect "bling" so if they are getting it and are happy then what's the problem?

You, as the consumer, can decide if it's what you want. If you feel like you are getting ripped off then go elsewhere. Fortunately there's a lot of variety and options out there.

IMO you can never have too many options. Choice is a good thing.

 

[deadheadskier]

I WISH mt snow was not a resort and just simply was old school and catered to skiers. So that's why I'm bitching about bubble chairs and shit.

Then drive further up the road to Magic. Problem solved

 

[Snowlover]

Where I live I almost always have to get a hotel room. Everything is at least 2 hours away, except for Mountain Creek and I hate that place and won't pay to go there. I'll run out to the Poconos for a day trip but even for Hunter (3 hour drive) I'll get a room overnight. Skiing midweek helps because everything cost a bit less and I can get better deals on tickets online but if you want to play then you gotta pay. Skiing is an expensive hobby.

One day I plan to move to where I can have a "local" mountain but that's still a few years off so I make the best of it.

Driving someplace in snow isn't a problem. Been there, done that. I have a Jeep and four wheeling in snow is what I do for fun.

Yeah until some jackass going to fast plows into you. Roads are dangerous when their snow covered. People do not understand concept of slowing down. And some of the Suv driver's are the absolute worst. They don't understand that 4wd helps you get going, but doesn't help you stop. A dodge neon with snow tires is actually better in the snow than a jeep with bad bald tires. And the 18 wheelers are always jacknifing and you're dead if they run into you.
Yeah thank god I have a few local places or I'd never get to ski! It's good to hear you're making the best of it. Hopefully soon you'll have that mountain to call your own

 

[Snowlover]

One day I plan to move to where I can have a "local" mountain but that's still a few years off so I make the best of it.

Doesn't jersey have a mountain? Is that the mountain creek place?

 

[Wavewheeler]

Doesn't jersey have a mountain? Is that the mountain creek place?

Yep, Mountain Creek. For me, it's not worth the expense and time to drive there. For an extra half hour/hour drive I can do better so I just skip Mountain Creek. I can't stand the trails, it's a pain to park there and get to the lodge. It's just not a place I like to be. The trails aren't very interesting or challenging and they have this nasty fake Gondola that you have to remove your skis to get on and then you stand on it on the way up. Before you know it, you are back down the mountain in 2.5 minutes so it's just a giant pain.

There's a couple of smaller hills in the same area but again, I can drive a bit further and do much better.

If I'm going to make a day trip I'll go to Camelback, which actually is a pretty good day trip. I only ski midweek so crowds aren't a problem.

For a two day trip I'll head up to the Catskills which are nice too. It's not all bad. I do what I can with what I have. In a few years I plan to relocate west for a lot of reasons.

 

[Snowlover]

Yep, Mountain Creek. For me, it's not worth the expense and time to drive there. For an extra half hour/hour drive I can do better so I just skip Mountain Creek. I can't stand the trails, it's a pain to park there and get to the lodge. It's just not a place I like to be. The trails aren't very interesting or challenging and they have this nasty fake Gondola that you have to remove your skis to get on and then you stand on it on the way up. Before you know it, you are back down the mountain in 2.5 minutes so it's just a giant pain.


There's a couple of smaller hills in the same area but again, I can drive a bit further and do much better.


If I'm going to make a day trip I'll go to Camelback, which actually is a pretty good day trip. I only ski midweek so crowds aren't a problem.


For a two day trip I'll head up to the Catskills which are nice too. It's not all bad. I do what I can with what I have. In a few years I plan to relocate west for a lot of reasons.

I can't believe that a nj ski hill has a gondola! What a complete waste!

 

[mriceyman]

I can't believe that a nj ski hill has a gondola! What a complete waste!

Its not the gondola your thinking of.