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I worked temporary in a sales office soon after graduating from college and they had people take a personality at the start of their interview. I remember the managers and admins raving because this one interview dude scored wicked high for a sales person personality, however they were rated it. It was like they would not have been impressed with this guy's interview without a personality test. It just didn't make sense to me.

I had to take a similar test four years back when I was promoted to management. During the test I kept thinking "do I click the answers that are really me or the ones they want to see?" That PISSED me off because what I do for work and my personality type do not align. My philosophy is you judge people on what they do and have done, not what they say or what a test says about them.
I hear ya. When I was 18 years old I applied for a job to sell new cars. I had already taken a college-level Psychology class while I was in high school. When I got to the interview, I knew the answers they were looking for in their profiling (like "Which animal could you be if you could pick any?" "Which bird?" "Which sea creature?"). Of course, they wanted you to choose aggressive, smart animals... and I did. Some were true answers, some were not. I got the job, which was a huge accomplishment for an 18 year old--but after 1 day of training, I knew it wasn't the job for me. They put too much emphasis in something that could so easily be faked. I never should have gotten it in the first place.
I kick people in the nuts when they don't do as I say.
It figures.
 

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What amazes me is that the larger companies now make kids applying for part-time entry-level positions take personality tests...really, what is a personality test going to tell you about a 16YO being hired to push shopping carts and stock shelves? :roll:
 

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Marc's such a stud that the ladies always do as he says.

That or he's such a creep that the ladies move to different cities to avoid him. One of the two.

C10 says he's REALLY good with goats -- h'mmm kicking goats in the nuts -- wonder what the PETA nutbags would say bout thAT ----------------------::D:D:D
 

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I perfer to lead my team by using an energetic approach. Sometimes I feel two-faced when I have to have people work on things that I know just a waste of time...but I do it anyway.

Two things I've found helpful in leading people.
  • Manage on your feet. Go to where the work is happening at. Even if you're not directly working on the same project, it helps the employees to know that you are right there if they need any guidance.
  • Feed them. When you have crews working day and night and back into the day, showing up with some food really goes a long way.
 

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Marc's such a stud that the ladies always do as he says.

That or he's such a creep that the ladies move to different cities to avoid him. One of the two.

Dood, I figured out of anyone, you'd come up with the correct answer.


I'm an engineer, meaning I work with other engineers, meaning I don't work with any females.
 

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I perfer to lead my team by using an energetic approach. Sometimes I feel two-faced when I have to have people work on things that I know just a waste of time...but I do it anyway.

Two things I've found helpful in leading people.
  • Manage on your feet. Go to where the work is happening at. Even if you're not directly working on the same project, it helps the employees to know that you are right there if they need any guidance.
    and this way, you can take credit for anything productive that is happening and distance yourself from the worthless hacks while being one yourself
  • Feed them. When you have crews working day and night and back into the day, showing up with some food really goes a long way.
    but make sure it comes out of their pay, without them noticing, if at all possible

My little additions.


I'd make a fantastic manager.
 

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Dood, I figured out of anyone, you'd come up with the correct answer.


I'm an engineer, meaning I work with other engineers, meaning I don't work with any females.
But why are there no women engineers? I'm gonna go with because men engineers are such creeps that the women move to other cities to avoid us.

I had my bases covered.
 

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Some dangerous assumptions being made here :D:D I've seen major bravado shrikage by some so called tuff guys when encountering peere of the distaff gender :D:D

I know several female engineers who have advanced degrees and serious experience up the ying yang that would put a major hurt on ya if you assumed that you could treat them like cubicle nerds .
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But why are there no women engineers? I'm gonna go with because men engineers are such creeps that the women move to other cities to avoid us.

I had my bases covered.

It's because women with the intellectual capacity to be engineers are also smart enough to find better career paths that pay more for less work and don't involve consumption of mass amounts of jolt cola and twinkies.

I actually know lots o' women engineers. The ratio used to be around 10:1 but that's slowly changing based on the fact that more women than men are getting accepted in undergrad programs.
 
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I kick people in the nuts when they don't do as I say.

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What amazes me is that the larger companies now make kids applying for part-time entry-level positions take personality tests...really, what is a personality test going to tell you about a 16YO being hired to push shopping carts and stock shelves? :roll:

Freaking crazy...when I was a kid..those sorts of jobs they sometimes let you start the day of the interview..no background checks or anything..less trust in our society..

I perfer to lead my team by using an energetic approach. Sometimes I feel two-faced when I have to have people work on things that I know just a waste of time...but I do it anyway.

Two things I've found helpful in leading people.
  • Manage on your feet. Go to where the work is happening at. Even if you're not directly working on the same project, it helps the employees to know that you are right there if they need any guidance.
  • Feed them. When you have crews working day and night and back into the day, showing up with some food really goes a long way.


I agree with Feed them. We had a setting crew in from Western PA for two days to help us set some monsters that were too large for our truck/boom-crane. Of course we put them up but also took the out for a steak dinner and drank bass ale and took shots of Jameson...they did a kickass job and the customers are happy which makes us look great and we will continue to use them in the future when needed. Although they were hired to do the job..I still helped with caulking, measurements and gave them mapping like it was for the President. One of my first experiences being in charge of a project and delegating work since the boss and delivery driver were both away so I was in charge..empowering.
 

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What amazes me is that the larger companies now make kids applying for part-time entry-level positions take personality tests...really, what is a personality test going to tell you about a 16YO being hired to push shopping carts and stock shelves? :roll:
My favorite are the automatic interview machines that ask you questions left have you ever stolen, etc.

I interview people all the time for my current position. I break all the rules when it comes to interviewing people (well, not the legal ones!!!!). A lot of people get their promotions and new jobs because of experience. I say experience means crap. I barely look at experience on a resume because people that have a LOT of experience could have been dreadfully bad at what they did and people with absolutely no experience might be incredible at picking up new stuff. You gotta look for what is going on between the ears when you ask a question and how they answers is almost if not more important than what they say. Personality tests have their places, but for interviewing they are the pits. I will trust my instinct every time and rarely have I been wrong.
 

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Communication style Bias can and does OFTEN occur in the interview process . Many organizations are dominated by one style type which leads to problems '

Here s how it goes :

Why ?? Bcuz weassucessful managers all know what success looks like ! Meaning it looks like OUR communication style , so while no one instrument should ever be the determining factor a series of coordinating instruments can provide a "mosaic " to aid one during the jnterview , not as a controlling factor but as yet another tool in the process toward a more informed decision .

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There are ONLY FOUR Communication Styles ( Driver ,Analytical, Amiable , Expressive) each has zones of intensity and are subject to both strength and weaknesses . As a matter of fact ther is a strength /weakness paradox some times at work especially under stressful conditions ( any strength used to EXCESS becomes a tremendous weakness)

Each of the four styles work on a 2 demensional axis with varying degrees of strenght on these 2 criterion : Assertiveness and Responsiveness

The key here is to understand the 4 styles and what EACH brings to the table so you can build a more effective and productive organization and NOT be subjecyted to JUST one style type which can lead to myopic decision making and more of concern a blind MAINTENANCE of THE STATUS QUO
 

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There are ONLY FOUR Communication Styles ( Driver ,Analytical, Amiable , Expressive) each has zones of intensity and are subject to both strength and weaknesses .

Good ol' Social Styles. I took that class. Betcha you can guess my primary style.


Here's what we mostly figured out about the four styles:

Driver = Asshole
Analytical = Engineer
Amiable = Doormat
Expressive = Unstable/psychotic
 
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