New Ski House for Rent

[Lucky Bear Lodge]

Apologies if this isn't the right forum for this post. My new, three-bedroom, 2-bath White Mountains house - Lucky Bear Lodge - is available for rent this ski season, December through March. Lucky Bear Lodge is 8 miles to Cannon, 18 to Loon, and 23 to Bretton Woods. Trails to hike, cross-country, snowshoe, snow mobile and ATV are a quick walk or drive away. I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Here's the AirBNB listing:
https://airbnb.com/h/luckybearlodge
Here's the Facebook page:
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[BodeMiller1]

I'm not on Facebook, How much a week?

Do you allow pirate partys? It's okay if you do.

 

[Lucky Bear Lodge]

Thanks for your interest in Lucky Bear Lodge. The price to rent it for the four-month ski season is $24,000, including electricity, gas, local phone, high-speed Internet and snow removal. Parties are not allowed.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Parties are not allowed.

Somebody's new to ABNB.

 

[ss20]

Somebody's new to ABNB.

Yeah lol. Good luck with no parties while people are on vacation in a 3 bedroom house

 

[jimmywilson69]

Thank you for the heads up looks like a nice rental best of luck with your endeavor.

neverminded Mr Miller...

I mean a 3 bedroom that houses 8 people doesn't really scream party. As long as there is only 8 people there. I mean of course when I rent a house I drink and "party" but I wouldn't consider my actions a "Party"

 

[BodeMiller1]

Thank you for the heads up looks like a nice rental best of luck with your endeavor.

neverminded Mr Miller...

I mean a 3 bedroom that houses 8 people doesn't really scream party. As long as there is only 8 people there. I mean of course when I rent a house I drink and "party" but I wouldn't consider my actions a "Party"

Sounds ligit...

 

[cdskier]

Yeah lol. Good luck with no parties while people are on vacation in a 3 bedroom house

The minimum rental period on AirBnB for that listing is 121 days. No one is renting this for a quick vacation to have a party. Unless someone is getting a whole group of people to chip in on a $24K rental for the season, I'm not seeing this being rented by the type of people that would typically "party". Maybe I'm wrong though...

 

[Edd]

I’ve missed the boat on getting the pre-Airbnb seasonal rental prices from well over a decade ago. This one comes to about $200/night which is a good price for a week-long stay. A season, though? $24K pays for a lot of western ski trips, I just couldn’t. You could obviously split with another party given a good relationship but still pricey. I wonder if someone will bite on the whole 4-month enchilada?

 

[jimmywilson69]

oh this is a seasonal rental? Yeah that's steep even for 2 families of 4 that's still $12k for the season.

 

[thebigo]

hope it works out for them but wildly overpriced. We do a three month rental at a nicer house for $6K, all included. To be fair we are at Ragged and they are at Cannon but for $24K I would expect to be slope side at K/SR/SL/SB etc.

 

[BenedictGomez]

oh this is a seasonal rental? Yeah that's steep even for 2 families of 4 that's still $12k for the season.

A lot of towns (the smart ones) are banning ABNB units for anything less than 30 days. The bans started out at crony political protection of the hotel industry, but as ABNB exploded during COVID it really did become apparent these rentals were ruining the charm and character of some areas, not to mention any sense of community. And the parties are real! LOL. Not to mention it's not very safe for local residents to essentially have a pseudo-hotel with non-stop, rotating transients you know nothing about right next door to you.

The town in Utah I just moved to banned them other than LTR happily, but big cities like NYC just banned them too. So did Dallas a few weeks ago, Miami Beach is in the process, etc... Then you have other places like San Diego that didnt ban but are restricting the number of ABNB units. I think it's going to become a problem for ABNB given they're a publicly traded company.

 

[jimmywilson69]

I think these bans are funny. short term rentals at the beach have always been a thing. Now that they've infiltrated other places (e.g. Ski towns, etc.) the NIMBYS are out in full effect. With the vocal majority probably being transplants themselves! How do you expect your tourist driven economy to work without a place for the tourists to stay...

I am for some sort of regulation and oversite but outright bans don't make sense.

I had the joy of being at a local municipal meeting in the Poconos and listening to all of these New Yorkers, probably working from home, bitching about short term rentals. The concept that they too were foreign to the community was totally lost on these clowns.

 

[BenedictGomez]

It's not the concept or the "thing" in and of itself, it's the fact that the speedy proliferation of STR rentals in some areas is quite alarming.

ABNB and VRBO absolutely exploded the numbers of rental units in some places due to the ease of set-up, the greater ability to "pencil" these financially, and much easier/cheaper pathway to gaining clients. Those are typically the areas with the regulations and/or bans, but yes, the political cronyism on behalf of the lodging industry's campaign donation dollars is a real thing too.

Lastly, I hadn't mentioned this as it seemed extraneous to the conversation, but it also hurt home affordability in some areas simply due to the quick velocity of decrease in available SFH supply. It's not that there aren't enough homes in a given area, but that some areas have tons of SFHs which quite recently used to be family residences, but are currently now ABNB rentals. I believe this is something nobody's paying attention to right now, and I think you're going to eventually hear about it in 2024 or 2025, possibly even an election year issue as so many people, especially millennials feel locked-out of home ownership.

 

[2Planker]

Thanks for your interest in Lucky Bear Lodge. The price to rent it for the four-month ski season is $24,000, including electricity, gas, local phone, high-speed Internet and snow removal. Parties are not allowed.

Good luck w/ that..... No seasonal employee in the MWV will be able to afford $6,000/month

 

[ss20]

STR need/should/will exist forever. But Airbnb murdered, killed, and then burned the remains of "affordable housing" just about every area that was a desirable vacation spot. Absolutely killed them.

There need to be a balance. STR's are too profitable and too easy. And I'm about as "conservative"/pro free market as it gets when it comes to the economy.

 

[snoseek]

Why don't you take that house and rent it to seasonal employees? Contact hr and it'll be gone tomorrow

Edit...24k is kind if exorbant for lifties and patrol

 

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

I have been following the Air BnB Bust potential and it looks like it could really lower RE prices in ski towns with a lot of STR's. Many of these towns RE prices more than doubled in 2 years. What goes up fast can come down fast.

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[2Planker]

Why don't you take that house and rent it to seasonal employees? Contact hr and it'll be gone tomorrow

Edit...24k is kind if exorbant for lifties and patrol

No F'ing way a patroller, lifty or bartender can afford $6,000/month.
Maybe IF you put 12 people in it.... $500/mo is reasonable

 

[snoseek]

No F'ing way a patroller, lifty or bartender can afford $6,000/month.
Maybe IF you put 12 people in it.... $500/mo is reasonable

Yeah that was my edit after quick math.
.then again 10 or.so young workers in a place like that sounds realistic in my experience. Beats most employee housing