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No turning on the traverses!!!

dmc

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I was refering to this comment... not HS's comment..

The down hill skier always has the right of way. Period. This is more of a PSA for people who won't exercise common courtesy.
 

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While we're quoting the Code, how about this part:

It is always your responsibility, regardless of the equipment used or the level of skier that you are, to be courteous to others and to be aware that skiing safely makes the ski slopes safer for all of us.

A skier who yells at others in such a way that he "feel(s) bad" for them might be violating the "be courteous" part of the Code.
 

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While we're quoting the Code, how about this part:

t is always your responsibility, regardless of the equipment used or the level of skier that you are, to be courteous to others and to be aware that skiing safely makes the ski slopes safer for all of us.

A skier who yells at others in such a way that he "feel(s) bad" for them might be violating the "be courteous" part of the Code.

As much as I agree - it's not part of the code...

National Ski Patrol Responsibility Code
-Always stay in control, and be able to stop or avoid other people or objects.
-People ahead of you have the right of way. It is your responsibility to avoid them.
-You must not stop where you obstruct a trail, or are not visible from above.
-Whenever starting downhill or merging into a trail, look uphill and yield to others.
-Always use devices to help prevent runaway equipment.
-Observe all posted signs and warnings. Keep off closed trails and out of closed areas.
-Prior to using any lift, you must have the knowledge and ability to load, ride and unload safely.
 

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As much as I agree - it's not part of the code...

I'm going to go have another cup of coffee now and see if I can't get my brain to catch up to my fingers. What I quoted apparently was the About.com Preamble to the NSP Responsibility Code ...

I knew I should've stayed outta this
 

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Like someone else said, if you have room to make turns at all, your not on a traverse, your on a trail.
 

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Like someone else said, if you have room to make turns at all, your not on a traverse, your on a trail.

Ditto. When I first read the post, I though lleh, if someone is turning on a traverse they are doing it to start down!
 

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I feel your pain.

Nothing worse than coming from Jordan Bowl via Kansas and coming upon a small group of "left to righters" to break your stride. (unless you are on a snowboard when this happens)

I have been known to cut through on a skis width but always shout out "on your left/right".

I hear you on Kansas! As twisted as it may sound, I actually kind of enjoy skiing Kansas as long as the conditions are fast and nobody cuts you off. If someone cuts you off and you lose momentum, it sucks big time.
 

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Wrong... If someone is downhill of you and enters a trail without looking uphill and you can't stop in time... they are at fault.

It's incumbent upon them to follow the "code"

#4 - Whenever starting downhill or merging into a trail, look uphill and yield to others.

You have me there though on a traverse such as the original poster was referring the lead skier would always have the right of way.
 

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You have me there though on a traverse such as the original poster was referring the lead skier would always have the right of way.

Unless they were crossing a trail. Which is always terrifying at Killington...
 

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Man, there have been a lot of whining threads lately about yielding to the downhill skier. I know its annoying, but whenever I start to get mad, I try to think back to when I was learning to ski, and how scary it was when someone would go whizzing by you like that. In the grand scheme of things, it requires so little to just be a bigger person and do the yielding.
 

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Man, there have been a lot of whining threads lately about yielding to the downhill skier. I know its annoying, but whenever I start to get mad, I try to think back to when I was learning to ski, and how scary it was when someone would go whizzing by you like that. In the grand scheme of things, it requires so little to just be a bigger person and do the yielding.

Hummm.....I'm not talking about yielding or groups of people. If there's a pack of people traveling at a slower speed, and no safe room to pass, I will certainly yield until it is safe to pass.

The yelling is reserved for people making turns, or random turns on the traverse. "Hey!" To get them to keep from turning into you while trying to pass.

By traverse, I mean the long relatively flat connecting trails around Killington, such as Launch pad, Middle Great Northern, the rams head -> K-1 connector, etc. These trails are roughly 20-30ft wide, and there is normally plenty of room to pass. Most beginners and intermediates NEED to go straight down these to maintain their speed.
 

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Hummm.....I'm not talking about yielding or groups of people. If there's a pack of people traveling at a slower speed, and no safe room to pass, I will certainly yield until it is safe to pass.

The yelling is reserved for people making turns, or random turns on the traverse. "Hey!" To get them to keep from turning into you while trying to pass.

By traverse, I mean the long relatively flat connecting trails around Killington, such as Launch pad, Middle Great Northern, the rams head -> K-1 connector, etc. These trails are roughly 20-30ft wide, and there is normally plenty of room to pass. Most beginners and intermediates NEED to go straight down these to maintain their speed.

I know what you are talking about... Great Northern kind of near the bottom of the Glades Triple where it is flat is another problem area. I don't care if you make small turns, but from side to side with no consistency is what bothers me. People will make a small turn then a huge one to the edge, then all the way over to the other side, a few small turns and so on. I understand that they may just be learning, but situational awareness should be considered. I know when I was just learning I wouldn't do that because I didn't want to get hit ...and because I had some common sense. I have also made it a habit to look next to me and behind me before any large direction changes.

I think a bigger issue at K is the stupid people that stop in the middle of the trail for photo shoots and to wait for their friends. I believe the K insider or daily report mentioned it early this season because it was becoming a problem.
 

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I don't ever remember being told that a traverse must be skied fast as possible, what skiing rule # is that one ?
 
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