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On mountain etiquette

Madroch

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As someone said earlier, the code is the code. If your overtaking the down hill skier it is your responsibility to avoid them no matter if they are making short turns or going from side to side (or both).

This^^^ Most frightening day of my skiing career watching a racer making huge GS turns at high speed plow into my daughter--who was not even going side to side but relatively straight-- she is fine.... but the code is the code. Note-- this accident was probably equally caused by violating the code and the limited terrain and decisions to train racers on lower intermediate trails due to such limited terrain.
 

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I always tell people sitting in a bad spot on the trail to move. Always. I dont stop and do it though. I ride a bit down and signal them to get going and explain that they could get really hurt sitting there. As for passing someone downhill of you its tough sometimes. Gotta go by only when its safe. I make alot of noise on my board to let them know I'm coming. I talk to them when they can hear me. "On your left". I hate riding when I feel like someone is going to hit me or my family. I played football at Ohio State and I am always ready to lay the wood down if someone gets too close. Good old linebacker days.

:daffy::daffy::daffy::daffy:
 

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lol-
This is epidemic the last few years. What is it with people who do not get up to the speed of the traffic they are merging into. Didn't their driving instructor stress this? So many people do this now that nobody wants to drive in the right lane any more.
I see performance sedans entering the highway at less than 40mph. Then a mile or two down they road they go by me at 80+mph. I don't get it.

There seems to be this notion that the rightmost lane is the acceleration & deceleration lane. It's not just slow to get on, but braking in the travel lane when preparing to exit. A lot of this comes down to the concept of a) yield and b) impeding the flow of traffic in a travel lane. Fundamentally it's another form of selfish behavior. How often do people say "excuse me" as they shove past you. Ah automobiles, the great social equalizer.
Back on-topic now:oops:
 

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Back on topic.

Probably the worst boarder/skier interaction is that most people don't understand is that the boarder's back side is his blind side. A skier/boarder should always overtake a downhill boarder on his front site. It's a little hard when two boarders are on the same stance. I've seen a lot of accidents because of this. I'm guilty of this, but am trying to rehabilitate myself.

I also try to shout "left" or "right" when I'm overtaking a person. Problem is that I often confuse his left with my left :(
 

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Your instructor wasn't too good. He/she should have shown you how to adjust your mirrors to avoid blind spots.

You actually turn your head around and look behind you before changing lanes when driving? I find that hard to believe.

I have to agree here,If you know how to adjust your mirrors you eliminate blind spots. most people for some reason think they must see the side of their car in the mirror, thus they never learn to trust the mirror.
 

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I agree with those who have said it changes the game to have kids and ski with them.

My wife and I ski one ahead and one behind our 5-year-old daughter. The skier ahead determines the line and the skier behind (me) is there to absorb impacts.

This past weekend I had the fantastic experience of taking my 5-year-old daughter to the summit of Gore for the first time. There is some nice blue terrain up there, but the (borderline) blue trail that accesses it is tight, double fall line and high traffic.

We made wide turns and used 3/4 of the width of the trail to control our speed. Young riders flew by us the whole way down, and I was much more concerned about that, then the pitch or any icy patches.

Maybe we were a hazard. Still, it's my mountain too, we skied as safely as we could and I felt we had every right to be there. The code is the code. The system breaks down if you start making exceptions to it.
 

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Back on topic.

I also try to shout "left" or "right" when I'm overtaking a person. Problem is that I often confuse his left with my left :(

You can tap your poles behind you as you're passing too. Old school, but it's still quite effective.
 

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You can tap your poles behind you as you're passing too. Old school, but it's still quite effective.

bleeding off some speed with a skid as you approach works too - slows you down for a safer pass and the sound alerts the skier ahead to your presence.
 

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I have to agree here,If you know how to adjust your mirrors you eliminate blind spots. most people for some reason think they must see the side of their car in the mirror, thus they never learn to trust the mirror.

Adjust your mirror to the optimum location. Take a roll of painters tape and put an "X" on your headrest. Now go behind and to the left of your car and follow the "X" in your mirror. Move side to side and front to back and you'll eventually find a spot where you can no longer see the "X" on your headrest. There's your proof that blind spots are not a myth.
 

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bleeding off some speed with a skid as you approach works too - slows you down for a safer pass and the sound alerts the skier ahead to your presence.

That is of course asuming that the person your trying to pass doesn't have ear buds in with the tunes a blaring and can hear your attempt to notfity them!

I wonder in how many collision situations these days that one or both parties involved have some music playing either via ear buds or integrated helmet speakers?? And i'd betting that there's been a couple of collisions caused by folks paying more attention to a friend that they're filming with their GoPro vs. paying attention to where they're going.

I'm thinking that just like distracted driving is the cause for many accidents that distracted skiing/boarding has an increased incidence of accidents too
 

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This probably falls under lift line etiquette, but that counts as on mountain, right?

Over this past holiday weekend I was reminded of one of my biggest pet peeves: People bumping the tips of their skis (or board) into the tail of my board in the lift line. Of course, this will happen by accident once in a while, but when someone bumps me every time we move it gets really annoying. I'm not standing there to help them stop. I pay good, hard earned money for my boards, I don't need some oblivious ass chipping the top sheet off the tail because he doesn't care about his own stuff.

I'm also getting really sick of ski patrol and other mountain employees talking to me like I'm their kid because I'm a snowboarder. I had 2 run-ins at Sunapee last weekend.

First time, the guy was cool. We were going a little too fast down a beginner trail and he stopped us in the lift line to ask us to slow down in those areas. He explained that, being a holiday weekend, there are a lot of beginners out and they get spooked when we fly by. He was polite and reasonable. So in return, we were polite and reasonable. We apologized and told him we'd avoid the greens and slow down when we were on them. And we did.

Later in the day, I was in the lift line at the park. I was telling my cousing a story about a guy sliding on his butt down one of those wavy boxes, and i was using the word "ass" to describe it. An instructor in line next to me leaned over and said, "You mean he was sliding on his behind?" I looked at him and the little girl he was with, realized my mistake (I do have a horrble potty-mouth) and agreed with him by saying, "Oh, yeah. That's what I meant." He then replied with, "I wasn't asking a question, it didn't need an answer." in a rude tone. Not necessary. That attitude made me want to go into a swear filled rant. He probably thought I was just punk park rat. I'm not. And even if I was, being a jerk to me isn't going to get me to listen to him. It might just make things worse.

It was funny though, after he said it, he skied away with the little girl. My cousin turns to me and says rather loudly, "What an ass." The guy threw him the dirtiest look over his shoulder.
 
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I'm also getting really sick of ski patrol and other mountain employees talking to me like I'm their kid because I'm a snowboarder. I had 2 run-ins at Sunapee last weekend.

First time, the guy was cool. We were going a little too fast down a beginner trail and he stopped us in the lift line to ask us to slow down in those areas. He explained that, being a holiday weekend, there are a lot of beginners out and they get spooked when we fly by. He was polite and reasonable. So in return, we were polite and reasonable. We apologized and told him we'd avoid the greens and slow down when we were on them. And we did.

Later in the day, I was in the lift line at the park. I was telling my cousing a story about a guy sliding on his butt down one of those wavy boxes, and i was using the word "ass" to describe it. An instructor in line next to me leaned over and said, "You mean he was sliding on his behind?" I looked at him and the little girl he was with, realized my mistake (I do have a horrble potty-mouth) and agreed with him by saying, "Oh, yeah. That's what I meant." He then replied with, "I wasn't asking a question, it didn't need an answer." in a rude tone. Not necessary. That attitude made me want to go into a swear filled rant. He probably thought I was just punk park rat. I'm not. And even if I was, being a jerk to me isn't going to get me to listen to him. It might just make things worse.

It was funny though, after he said it, he skied away with the little girl. My cousin turns to me and says rather loudly, "What an ass." The guy threw him the dirtiest look over his shoulder.
This is hysterical. You were going too fast on a beginner trail and got talked to. Then you used foul language in front of a little girl and got talked to again. Then your friend loudly calls an instructor an ass. Wow, I just cannot believe they talk down to you like some kid. :roll: Dude, it ain't the board that is bringing you the heat. Just behave yourself next time and they will leave you alone.
 

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This is hysterical. You were going too fast on a beginner trail and got talked to. Then you used foul language in front of a little girl and got talked to again. Then your friend loudly calls an instructor an ass. Wow, I just cannot believe they talk down to you like some kid. :roll: Dude, it ain't the board that is bringing you the heat. Just behave yourself next time and they will leave you alone.


I was using the two stories as a comparison. I admit I was in the wrong in both instances. My point is that when the guy who was reasonable talked to us, we considered what he had to say, apologized and changed our behavior accordingly.

When the other guy talked to me like I was his kid or something, it just pissed me off and caused me to react defensively and immaturely. I'm not saying it's right, but like they say, respect gets respect. Plus, it's not like I went off on an Andrew Dice Clay style rant. I said "ass". Not a big deal. There was no reason for him to talk down to me like that.
 

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I was using the two stories as a comparison. I admit I was in the wrong in both instances. My point is that when the guy who was reasonable talked to us, we considered what he had to say, apologized and changed our behavior accordingly.

When the other guy talked to me like I was his kid or something, it just pissed me off and caused me to react defensively and immaturely. I'm not saying it's right, but like they say, respect gets respect. Plus, it's not like I went off on an Andrew Dice Clay style rant. I said "ass". Not a big deal. There was no reason for him to talk down to me like that.

Does this happen frequently?
 
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