BWoods has the Alpine club, you get first tracks every morning...they start 30 minutes before everyone else ! Its I think...not 100% sure but 4 or 500 a month club per family but not sure of the details. I only see them while Im waiting for the 8am bell !
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Paying extra $$ for all day VIP lift access?
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I wonder what the break even point would be for the mountain to offer this? How many $25 passes would they need to sell.
How would it effect the line on the 6-pack? Doesn't Mt. Snow need the additional lift capacity for everyone on the weekends, not just those willing to pay extra?
Smellytele
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With Copper it isn't a separate lift just a separate line for the lift. I actually just bought some VIP tix on line because they were actaully cheaper than any others I could find. I normal ticket there is 114 (which I don't think many pay) but prebuy is 72 on their website (liftopia). For the vip line it cost 30 dollars more and you can up grade any ticket to it. If you stay at Copper the upgrade is free.
http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/landingpages/secretpass2012
http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/landingpages/secretpass2012
hammer
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Don't like it at theme parks (Disney's system is OK because you don't pay extra for it) and I don't like it at ski areas. I'd rather see places limit ticket sales for the day.
WWF-VT
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Midweek days at most mountains already have uncrowded lifts, lodges and slopes. Why pay extra $$?
Tin
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My issue with skiing is that it is an exclusive, privileged, white sport, this would only add to it. I can see Stratton doing something like this as well. I would avoid any resort that did it.
Smellytele
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Well if you knew how to ski the mountain you wouldn't have that problem. :lol: Just thought I would write that before DR J 8)
Tin
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Would be great but I doubt the difference in insurance costs (if any) would make it worth while. Has there been a law suit yet for someone getting injured by another skier/rider and suing the area for negligence for allowing too many people?
bobbutts
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The flash pass thing pissed me off at Six Flags this summer
makes the regular people line longer, it's also insulting to ask for even more when you've already paid quite a bit
I'd just avoid going to a ski area that had this on a day where this is necessary.
Too bad for the recreation industry that nobody goes Sun-Fri and everybody comes on Sat. Mt Snow does unlimited 2-1's weekdays with a rideandski card, so clearly they have weekday capacity to spare. It's a hard question, limiting sales is an option too, but then you run the risk of losing the impulse customer who doesn't go or is turned away. The bonus is there is less overcrowding on trails and lodges. Doing the VIP pass does nothing to help with that.
makes the regular people line longer, it's also insulting to ask for even more when you've already paid quite a bit
I'd just avoid going to a ski area that had this on a day where this is necessary.
Too bad for the recreation industry that nobody goes Sun-Fri and everybody comes on Sat. Mt Snow does unlimited 2-1's weekdays with a rideandski card, so clearly they have weekday capacity to spare. It's a hard question, limiting sales is an option too, but then you run the risk of losing the impulse customer who doesn't go or is turned away. The bonus is there is less overcrowding on trails and lodges. Doing the VIP pass does nothing to help with that.
ScottySkis
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Do you get hookers to visit the lifts with VIP that what I use VIP for .
But then you have to ride the lift with the help...
Wouldn't like to see this, but if it happens, express pass sales should be limited so that no more than 10% of the capacity is filled by express riders. Else people will get annoyed.
Interesting thing I'm seeing lately is that Waterville has been really reeling in their discounts. I haven't seen a comp ticket out there (they were at the mall last year; also 99 amongst other places), and only day ticket discount I've seen announced is the Pats Tuesday. Otherwise, word is that the place is empty midweek since the $43 Mondays and Fridays are gone and the $43 w/ a Dunkin receipt on Wednesday, and $49 lift and lunch on Thursdays. Now, even with comps and discounts, they do well filling most chairs on Sunnyside and White Peaks. I can see this on Sundays to eliminate comps and bump up pricing as lines were around 15 minutes. So I guess this all got replaced by a frequent skier card that costs $95, includes a free day, and takes 3 days to break even on due to the $20-30 price premium over a window price, and a $15/day discount.
Interesting thing I'm seeing lately is that Waterville has been really reeling in their discounts. I haven't seen a comp ticket out there (they were at the mall last year; also 99 amongst other places), and only day ticket discount I've seen announced is the Pats Tuesday. Otherwise, word is that the place is empty midweek since the $43 Mondays and Fridays are gone and the $43 w/ a Dunkin receipt on Wednesday, and $49 lift and lunch on Thursdays. Now, even with comps and discounts, they do well filling most chairs on Sunnyside and White Peaks. I can see this on Sundays to eliminate comps and bump up pricing as lines were around 15 minutes. So I guess this all got replaced by a frequent skier card that costs $95, includes a free day, and takes 3 days to break even on due to the $20-30 price premium over a window price, and a $15/day discount.
Work obviously is always a hassle to most. But I could do better job at shuffling and rescheduling, and just flat out re-prioritizing to get out there on weekdays and really enjoy the the quiet. But it's almost harder to get the kids out of school anymore. Between school work and activities…. I don't know, maybe not for everyone, but that's how we feel.
Gonna try a few times this jan and feb though. Life's to short not enjoy a few weekdays on an uncrowded mountain….
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I just joined the adult race group and we get to cut most lines...except for the Flyer.
makimono
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C-Rex
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Haha!
I could care less about special lift privileges, I'd rather be able to pay extra to get fresh tracks on a pow day. As in, they leave a few trails closed until noon except for those who pay a fee to access them. Then at noon, they open it up to the general crowd.
skiNEwhere
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In all fairness, I think the general publics conception of skiing is that only those with money to burn participate in the sport to begin with.
Winter Park doesn't have a tram but they do it too.
Stratton already does that, or at least did, according to this article from 2005. Only $50,000! http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/18/travel/18club.html?pagewanted=print&position=&_r=0
NY Times said:
I got a "flash pass" for six flags once on a PACKED Saturday. There were probably 500-600 people in main line for the superman coaster, and 20-30 people in the "flash pass" line. They alternated taking a whole group from the main line for one coaster train, and one group from the flash pass line for the next train. Since it was so crowded, the flash pass line filled up the entire train, which effectively doubled the wait time for the main line. There were people yelling at the lift attendants about how much BS that was and that they had paid to get into the park as well. I couldn't agree with them more, and yes, I did feel like a total douche
gmcunni
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I think Okemo offers this
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