Radical Prediction Thread

[win]

Drive time from NYC

Okemo 4 hrs 30 m
Whiteface 4 hrs 40 m
Killington 5 hrs
Sugarbush 5 hrs 30 m
Stowe 6 hrs 15 m

Another nice thing about driving up to WF from NYC is all but 25 minutes in Thurway then Northway.

I make it from west 70th to Sugarbush outside of rush hour in 5 hours and so far no tickets. West side to Hutch to 684 to 84 to 91 to 89 to exit 4 and 12a to the gap and home. One stop in Whately, Ma for gasoline and coffee.

 

[freeheelwilly]

Wildcat - their web site says 200 + inches
Saddleback - 200 in
Sugarloaf - 194 in
Whiteface -168 in

The 3 you mention all get more, but I don't think blown away.

Average smaverage...

I honestly don't remember when WF only got 168". Last year was 193" and LAST YEAR SUCKED! The year before that it was over 200". What have you done for me lately?

This argument is sooooo friggin' stupid. AGAIN: Whiteface is better than anything in Vermont with the exception of Jay, the Bush, MRG and Stowe. The fact that people here debate that is astounding. Absolutely astounding.

And SRO posting that somehow Vermont and quaint little New England is preferable to New York's Adirondacks?:lol: :lol: That's too much! You friggin' crack me up! Maybe for pillow biting leaf peepers. I'm looking out my office and across Lake Champlain at those pathetic little round hills as we speak. They're a friggin' joke! Got granite? Didn't think so.

Vermont = cheesey Martha Stewart B&Bs and stinky old hippies in Birkenstocks. Get real people.

 

[2knees]

Maybe for pillow biting leaf peepers.

lmao. nice work.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Average smaverage...

I honestly don't remember when WF only got 168". Last year was 193" and LAST YEAR SUCKED! The year before that it was over 200". What have you done for me lately?

This argument is sooooo friggin' stupid. AGAIN: Whiteface is better than anything in Vermont with the exception of Jay, the Bush, MRG and Stowe. The fact that people here debate that is astounding. Absolutely astounding.

And SRO posting that somehow Vermont and quaint little New England is preferable to New York's Adirondacks?:lol: :lol: That's too much! You friggin' crack me up! Maybe for pillow biting leaf peepers. I'm looking out my office and across Lake Champlain at those pathetic little round hills as we speak. They're a friggin' joke! Got granite? Didn't think so.

Vermont = cheesey Martha Stewart B&Bs and stinky old hippies in Birkenstocks. Get real people.

Willy's stirin the pot, but no one seems to want to take a taste. Come on you Vermont lovers defend those little round hills.

Where's AHM when you need him, (which is almost never):wink: , but we could use his take here.

 

[freeheelwilly]

Willy's stirin the pot, but no one seems to want to take a taste. Come on you Vermont lovers defend those little round hills.

The Green Mountains really are a joke. I spend a lot of time on Lake Champlain in the summer. To my West are these majestic mountains towering 4-5000 feet above me covered with jagged granite scars careening down their precipitous faces; the epitome of the Eastern wilds. To my East is this low slung, grassy ridgeline rising almost imperceptively above an essentially suburban landscape that the Vermont Office of Tourism packages and sells to all the idiots in Boston, Connecticut, NYC and Long Island. uke:

Lake Champlain is a wonderful vantage point from which to observe the rugged beauty of the Adirondacks juxtaposed against the effeminate gentrification of Vermont. :flame:

 

[awf170]

The Green Mountains really are a joke. I spend a lot of time on Lake Champlain in the summer. To my West are these majestic mountains towering 4-5000 feet above me covered with jagged granite scars careening down their precipitous faces; the epitome of the Eastern wilds. To my East is this low slung, grassy ridgeline rising almost imperceptively above an essentially suburban landscape that the Vermont Office of Tourism packages and sells to all the idiots in Boston, Connecticut, NYC and Long Island. uke:

Lake Champlain is a wonderful vantage point from which to observe the rugged beauty of the Adirondacks juxtaposed against the effeminate gentrification of Vermont. :flame:

I wouldn't really call them mountains, more like hills except for Mt. Mansfield, Jay Peak, and Camels Hump. Now, New Hampshire on the other hand, those are some real mountains...

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Average smaverage...

I honestly don't remember when WF only got 168". Last year was 193" and LAST YEAR SUCKED! The year before that it was over 200". What have you done for me lately?

This argument is sooooo friggin' stupid. AGAIN: Whiteface is better than anything in Vermont with the exception of Jay, the Bush, MRG and Stowe. The fact that people here debate that is astounding. Absolutely astounding.

And SRO posting that somehow Vermont and quaint little New England is preferable to New York's Adirondacks?:lol: :lol: That's too much! You friggin' crack me up! Maybe for pillow biting leaf peepers. I'm looking out my office and across Lake Champlain at those pathetic little round hills as we speak. They're a friggin' joke! Got granite? Didn't think so.

Vermont = cheesey Martha Stewart B&Bs and stinky old hippies in Birkenstocks. Get real people.

Your totally right on...I was just kidding ya! When I drive to Burlington and I see those majestic mountains over the lake I wish we could trade the our Greens for your Daks. Why would thousands of NewYorkers come here to ski when they have such greatness in New York. The people in New York are so nice, friendly, easy-going and humble. New York has the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers and the Islanders and we have nothing. I don't know why I live in Vermont with the Daks looming over the lake. Hmmmmm....maybe I'll move or at least get me a pair of those Birkenstincks. You have convinced me....you lucky stiffs.

 

[riverc0il]

The Green Mountains really are a joke. I spend a lot of time on Lake Champlain in the summer. To my West are these majestic mountains towering 4-5000 feet above me covered with jagged granite scars careening down their precipitous faces; the epitome of the Eastern wilds. To my East is this low slung, grassy ridgeline rising almost imperceptively above an essentially suburban landscape that the Vermont Office of Tourism packages and sells to all the idiots in Boston, Connecticut, NYC and Long Island.

wow, someone has an inferiority complex that his mountains don't get as much snow as these here whimpy hills. :lol: you are right, the grees are anything but myjestic which is why i still primarily hike the whites which can at least give the dacks a run for their money. but you can't deny the skiing that the whimpy hills of VT offer up.

 

[riverc0il]

This argument is sooooo friggin' stupid. AGAIN: Whiteface is better than anything in Vermont with the exception of Jay, the Bush, MRG and Stowe. The fact that people here debate that is astounding. Absolutely astounding.

this statement is really funny. whiteface, the best that NY has to offer, is better than anything in VT except four of the best resorts in the northeast! :lol: so in your mind, whiteface is at best 5th place in the northeast and VT has no less than four areas that are better than whiteface (and presumably every other area in NY). c'mon man, that is just a silly arguement. who the hell cares any ways. i can't wait until the snow starts flying and we can put these lame ass summer withdrawal induced arguements behind us.:roll:

 

[ski_resort_observer]

this statement is really funny. whiteface, the best that NY has to offer, is better than anything in VT except four of the best resorts in the northeast! :lol: so in your mind, whiteface is at best 5th place in the northeast and VT has no less than four areas that are better than whiteface (and presumably every other area in NY). c'mon man, that is just a silly arguement. who the hell cares any ways. i can't wait until the snow starts flying and we can put these lame ass summer withdrawal induced arguements behind us.:roll:

I hear they drink alot over there. :lol:

 

[salida]

I'm drinking alot just to get by the foolishness that these 17 pages just brought me

 

[freeheelwilly]

Your totally right on...I was just kidding ya! When I drive to Burlington and I see those majestic mountains over the lake I wish we could trade the our Greens for your Daks.

I know you do. That's why all those photographs of Burlington face West, down the hill, over the lake to the Dacks. They never face East. Remember when Burlington was on the cover of Outside Magazine about 10 years ago. That cracked me up! 75% of the photo was the Dacks! :lol: Yep, always facing West. Hmmmmm.....wonder why that is?

Why would thousands of NewYorkers come here to ski when they have such greatness in New York.

Well, there's marketing but the main reason is simply that NY has protected its mountains against development. Building a ski area in New York ADK's is virtually impossible and would probably require an amendment to the Forever Wild clause in the State Constitution and would certainly face major hurdles from the APA. Every ski area there (and there are only about 5 or 6) pre-date the APA. Believe me, if there was a ski area on Marcy, Colden, Algonquin, Gothics, Haystack, Giant, Santononi or dozens of others - nobody would be over there skiin' those grassy knolls. I wouldn't have it any other way. Vermont, on the other hand, has decided to stick up a ski resort every few miles with condos and golf courses stuffed in between them. Guess they looked at their "mountains" roll: ) and decided they weren't worth protecting. Can't say I disagree.

The people in New York are so nice, friendly, easy-going and humble. New York has the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers and the Islanders and we have nothing.

Don't hate us because we're beautiful.

I don't know why I live in Vermont with the Daks looming over the lake. Hmmmmm....maybe I'll move

Please don't.

 

[freeheelwilly]

I hear they drink alot over there. :lol:

You really don't want to go there SRO. Vermont has a serious heroin problem it's been combating for about 10 years now. I know you guys don't like to talk about it. Dirty syringes dripping with hepatitis C doesn't quite fit with that bucolic image of cows and maple syrup you like to force feed the unknowing folks down south. Kind of an "inconvenient truth" but, nevertheless, there you have it.8)

 

[Greg]

This argument is sooooo friggin' stupid. AGAIN: Whiteface is better than anything in Vermont with the exception of Jay, the Bush, MRG and Stowe. The fact that people here debate that is astounding. Absolutely astounding.

this statement is really funny. whiteface, the best that NY has to offer, is better than anything in VT except four of the best resorts in the northeast! :lol: so in your mind, whiteface is at best 5th place in the northeast and VT has no less than four areas that are better than whiteface (and presumably every other area in NY). c'mon man, that is just a silly arguement. who the hell cares any ways. i can't wait until the snow starts flying and we can put these lame ass summer withdrawal induced arguements behind us.:roll:

Oof...... :blink:

Me thinks willy just got OWNED! You gotta throw Sugarloaf somewhere in there too, Steve. Quite possibly Whiteface just dropped to sixth in the NE! :lol:

 

[JimG.]

Where is Birdman829?

You still reading here bud or did we lose you forever?

 

[JimG.]

i can't wait until the snow starts flying and we can put these lame ass summer withdrawal induced arguements behind us.:roll:

Thank you.

 

[JimG.]

Your totally right on...I was just kidding ya! When I drive to Burlington and I see those majestic mountains over the lake I wish we could trade the our Greens for your Daks. Why would thousands of NewYorkers come here to ski when they have such greatness in New York. The people in New York are so nice, friendly, easy-going and humble. New York has the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers and the Islanders and we have nothing. I don't know why I live in Vermont with the Daks looming over the lake. Hmmmmm....maybe I'll move or at least get me a pair of those Birkenstincks. You have convinced me....you lucky stiffs.

OK, OK...I admit it!

I liked the "it's in New Yawk" comment alot more.

 

[freeheelwilly]

Oof...... :blink:

Me thinks willy just got OWNED! You gotta throw Sugarloaf somewhere in there too, Steve. Quite possibly Whiteface just dropped to sixth in the NE! :lol:

Owned!? By that dweeb. F'n Puh-lease!:smash:

 

[Greg]

Owned!? By that dweeb. F'n Puh-lease!:smash:

Effective comeback... :roll: Yup: owned....your non-response just proved it.

 

[Grassi21]

Effective comeback... :roll: Yup: owned....your non-response just proved it.

And dweeb is possibly the most offensive barb known to man. I used to call my brother a dweeb when I was 8.