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Rebirth of a hardtail

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Perhaps in your honor we should have at some point this summer a HT only ride?
 

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Perhaps in your honor we should have at some point this summer a HT only ride?

I might be down. "Might" being the operative word.

Brian was killing it on the climbs with the HT today. Right on my rear at one point on the way back towards the truck trail, and he won the "Sessions Gravel Loop Challenge" with ease. :lol:
 

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Perhaps in your honor we should have at some point this summer a HT only ride?

I might be down. "Might" being the operative word.

Brian was killing it on the climbs with the HT today. Right on my rear at one point on the way back towards the truck trail, and he won the "Sessions Gravel Loop Challenge" with ease. :lol:

Obviously I'm in, as long as it's before I have a chance to build a new FS..
 

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I might be down. "Might" being the operative word.

Brian was killing it on the climbs with the HT today. Right on my rear at one point on the way back towards the truck trail, and he won the "Sessions Gravel Loop Challenge" with ease. :lol:
He told me which climb that was. I am in awe! That's a tiring climb just walking; there's no way I could do that riding my bike right now! Then again, I have zero miles this year so far to y'all's 70+ miles, so that may be why. :oops:

I'm down for a HT only ride. 8)
 

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Now you need to take it down the rock gardens at Meriden so you can see what I was telling you about riding that with a HT. ;)

Nice job getting that together in such a short time! :beer:
Last summer, my husband started riding with me once in a while. We set my FS bike up for him which was waaaaay off for me, so I strictly rode my HT last summer(as well as the SS).
When I got the FS out this spring, I struggled with the hill climbs, but was in awe on the stump jumps and down hills.
 

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Does anyone else, besides me, find it humourous that Carrie has been talking about "when brian gets the Jeep running for her" for some time, yet he got a new bike built in ........two days(or was it three? Gotta be fair to Brain)

Just jerkin your chain Brian....
My husband is building a garage for me to park my car in, which has been a 9 or 10 year project, yet...he has a toy garage complete with power garage door opener for his dirt bikes and snowmobiles.
 

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Does anyone else, besides me, find it humourous that Carrie has been talking about "when brian gets the Jeep running for her" for some time, yet he got a new bike built in ........two days(or was it three? Gotta be fair to Brain)

Just jerkin your chain Brian....
My husband is building a garage for me to park my car in, which has been a 9 or 10 year project, yet...he has a toy garage complete with power garage door opener for his dirt bikes and snowmobiles.

Shhh... You trying to get me in more trouble?? :blink:
 

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Does anyone else, besides me, find it humourous that Carrie has been talking about "when brian gets the Jeep running for her" for some time, yet he got a new bike built in ........two days(or was it three? Gotta be fair to Brain)

Just jerkin your chain Brian....
My husband is building a garage for me to park my car in, which has been a 9 or 10 year project, yet...he has a toy garage complete with power garage door opener for his dirt bikes and snowmobiles.
It's lost on them: they're men. ;)

Twould be nice to have air conditioning and heat again, though. ;)
 

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Geez saw this thread title and thought you GUYS were parents again !!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO 'nother little potential hardass :D:D:D in da fold but noo deal just 'nother biker story

But hey Brian nice rebuild job
 

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for someone who's a Mtn Bike dummy, can you run down the advantages/disadvantages of HT vs ST?

Thanks, Just curious.
 

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FS will give you more rebound for hopping logs(and other stuff), and will provide more absorption for drops and downhills.

The down side is the rebound of the rear suspension has a tendency to cause a loss of traction on your drive tire on uphills, especially when you're standing.
 

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for someone who's a Mtn Bike dummy, can you run down the advantages/disadvantages of HT vs ST?

Thanks, Just curious.

I think you have some terminology mixed up.

HT = Hard Tail, that means that it has front suspension, but no rear suspension.

ST = Single Track, which is a type of trail; a track through the woods that is only wide enough for a single rider to fit down. As opposed to Double Track (DT), which is wide enough for about two riders to go down at once

What you're asking about is FS, which means Full Suspension, that means it has suspension on the front and rear of the bike. There's numerous advantages to this, most of which is the rear end sucking up bumps and staying in contact with ground more consistently, aiding in traction. It can also make riding a little less tiring because you don't have to use your legs to absorb the bumps as much. The disadvantages include the bike generally weighing more, and lost pedaling efficiency since the suspension can flex while pedaling, wasting energy. Some suspension designs can lessen the energy lost, but it's always there a little I think.
 

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FS will give you more rebound for hopping logs(and other stuff), and will provide more absorption for drops and downhills.

The down side is the rebound of the rear suspension has a tendency to cause a loss of traction on your drive tire on uphills, especially when you're standing.

Never hear of the rebound as being a major advantage. A full suspension will absorb terrain better resulting in a smoother ride. In doing so it keeps the rear tire in more constant contact with the terrain for overall better traction. The rear end of an HT tends to "skip" around especially at speed. The advantages of an HT include lighter weight and better climbing ability, although I've never felt pedal bob on my FS to be much of a problem. In fact, I never use the lockout on climbs for the reason I just mentioned - i.e. better traction.
 

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I think you have some terminology mixed up.

HT = Hard Tail, that means that it has front suspension, but no rear suspension.

ST = Single Track, which is a type of trail; a track through the woods that is only wide enough for a single rider to fit down. As opposed to Double Track (DT), which is wide enough for about two riders to go down at once

What you're asking about is FS, which means Full Suspension, that means it has suspension on the front and rear of the bike. There's numerous advantages to this, most of which is the rear end sucking up bumps and staying in contact with ground more consistently, aiding in traction. It can also make riding a little less tiring because you don't have to use your legs to absorb the bumps as much. The disadvantages include the bike generally weighing more, and lost pedaling efficiency since the suspension can flex while pedaling, wasting energy. Some suspension designs can lessen the energy lost, but it's always there a little I think.


oh - yeah... LOL - I guess I was thinking of Harley terminology, HT = Hardtail, ST = Softtail... Thanks for the correction...
 
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