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record snowlessness in Vt

thetrailboss

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Heard it on VPR last night....as I was driving home from Killington. Worst part of the trip were the bugs who hit my windshield.

Near record warmth as well.
 

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At the weather station on top of Vermont's tallest peak, 4,350 feet up Mount Mansfield, the normal average November temperature is 26 degrees. This year through Nov. 25 it was 34. Average November snowfall is 28.2 inches. As of Friday, just a half inch had fallen so far in November.

This says it all... 8 degrees above average and virtually all precip in unfrozen form.
 

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Better now than January folks. I just hope I'm not saying that again on December 28.
 

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Def. better in november than jan. However lets just see if we can get a base down in december. While last winter was a mess in jan. there was a great base down by the end of december and many of the resorts had plenty of trails open all jan. long. My fear this year is that a warm november leads to a DRY december and no building of a base that can survive weather swings later on.
 

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Doesn't anyone remember the winter of 1999-2000?

There was no snow until 1st week of January.

I remember hiking in the Whites on Thanksgiving and there was soggy, unfrozen ground at 4400' elev.

It could be worse - at least the trails are dry and the hiking & mt biking is good.
 

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Doesn't anyone remember the winter of 1999-2000?

There was no snow until 1st week of January.

I remember hiking in the Whites on Thanksgiving and there was soggy, unfrozen ground at 4400' elev.

It looks like the start of that year was sort of similar to this year so far. Big snow early melted out. Nothing significant again until late January.

1999_2000.jpg
 

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It could be worse - at least the trails are dry and the hiking & mt biking is good.
Yep, I just keep extending my mtb biking and rock climbing season - no use in getting too frustrated about something I have no control over.
 

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Just wondering why there aren't more automated snowpack stations in the East? I've got a blog site that tracks snowpack across the West using snotel sites, but I can't find anything like that in the East. Does anyone know of anything?

BTW, blog is www.teleprophet.blogspot.com

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Just wondering why there aren't more automated snowpack stations in the East? I've got a blog site that tracks snowpack across the West using snotel sites, but I can't find anything like that in the East. Does anyone know of anything?

BTW, blog is www.teleprophet.blogspot.com

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Snowpack in the EAST.....what's that all about?????
 

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I am going to guess that the reason might have something to do with the fact that out west the snowpack is almost like a precious comodity and the fact out west you so much public land whereas back here it all mostly private.

I would assume putting weather stations, earthquake monitors etc on public lands vs dealing with a private landowner has got to be easier.
Back to my first point we in the east just don't have to worry about water resources like you do out west.

I lived for many years in NW Wyoming, ranchers and recreationaal users fight over usage relating as to how much water was in the Snake River and how it was released from the Jackson Dam and who got to use what and how much. So if water is not a problem why spend millions monitoring it in the east.

Another thing is we in the east do not get much water from snowpack, once your into May, except for a few places, it's pretty much gone. In the west as you know the snowpack is sending down water from the mountains all year long. I guess it comes down to the fact that out west snowpack is an important water resource in the valleys while back here not so much.
 
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