Ski collision analysis thread......

[Smellytele]

didn't get to the end of the video, but what I want to know is, why is that guy getting undressed on the trail?

To fight. You do know you have to take off your shirt to fight, right?

 

[SIKSKIER]

That guy was a total turd.Way over reacting.The stereotype for skiers vs boarders is reversed in that video.I have to wonder why you take your shirt off to fight when your a skinny dude,but it did seem to work.haha.

 

[drjeff]

This one is a bit more complcated. Your thoughts?

The cameraman. He should've been spotting the jump for the person he was trying to film.

#1 Cameraman - if you're on a feature in a park filming, 1st and foremost it's YOUR job to make sure that the landing is clear for those you're about to film - Heck in my kids park instruction group one of the 1st and foremost things that they teach (even at Mount Snow where that video was shot!) is the importance of a spotter, since on many features their size and shape is such that you CAN'T see the landing area from the in run

#2 The skier launching off the jump - if you're not sure it's clear, don't go. Plus if his buddy was on the jump filming, he should of asked if it was clear for him to go

#3 The Boarder - the video didn't show if the boarder just haphazardly making turns went into the landing area (any non park user NEEDS to be aware not to enter a landing area from the side) or if they had previously fallen and were down on the snow. If the boarder just decided to make turns in the landing area, then they suddenly acquire more of the blame for the inicident, if they were previously down on the landing area, then they are off the hook blame wise

 

[HowieT2]

I think he was hitting on her.

that was my thought. dude was hoping to hook up.

 

[Domeskier]

I think this one has been discussed here before:

Clearly the downhill skier's fault here.

 

[tnt]

To fight. You do know you have to take off your shirt to fight, right?

I just watched that part.

While I agree that the dad is way out of line, I have to say, that kid taking his shirt off on the trail to fight is about that funniests damn thing I've seen in a long time.

What the hell.

I can't stop laughing.




And really, I don't think those kids were hot dogging or being too crazy at all. But maybe there was something before the clip. Jeez. When you're a kid, the sides of a traversing trail like that is MADE for goofing around like that. What the heck.

I didn't see them get too close to the kids, and yeah, if they did, I would be upset. But I would just stop with my kids and let them zoom ahead.

But he took his shirt off…..ha….oh my god. So funny.

 

[tnt]

Yeah, the boarders turn a little douchey at the end there.

Shame that happened. Probably ruined the day for the kids.

 

[Dickc]

#1 Cameraman - if you're on a feature in a park filming, 1st and foremost it's YOUR job to make sure that the landing is clear for those you're about to film - Heck in my kids park instruction group one of the 1st and foremost things that they teach (even at Mount Snow where that video was shot!) is the importance of a spotter, since on many features their size and shape is such that you CAN'T see the landing area from the in run

#2 The skier launching off the jump - if you're not sure it's clear, don't go. Plus if his buddy was on the jump filming, he should of asked if it was clear for him to go

#3 The Boarder - the video didn't show if the boarder just haphazardly making turns went into the landing area (any non park user NEEDS to be aware not to enter a landing area from the side) or if they had previously fallen and were down on the snow. If the boarder just decided to make turns in the landing area, then they suddenly acquire more of the blame for the inicident, if they were previously down on the landing area, then they are off the hook blame wise

If you look closely, there is both a camera man AND an jump spotter. Somehow both missed the boarder coming into the landing area. The skier jumping it did what he was supposed to and had a spotter. I am assuming here that the spotter had given him the clear sign. The spotter should be watching the jump landing area, not focusing on the incoming jumper. This is how the boarder managed to foul the landing area and a wave off not occur. The skier is totally dependent on the spotter for this. Now how and why the boarder got there is another whole argument that can be had.

 

[soposkier]

If you look closely, there is both a camera man AND an jump spotter. Somehow both missed the boarder coming into the landing area. The skier jumping it did what he was supposed to and had a spotter. I am assuming here that the spotter had given him the clear sign. The spotter should be watching the jump landing area, not focusing on the incoming jumper. This is how the boarder managed to foul the landing area and a wave off not occur. The skier is totally dependent on the spotter for this. Now how and why the boarder got there is another whole argument that can be had.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but doesn't the boarder go off the jump prior to the skier? My guess would be they didn't clear the table top and fell on the landing.

 

[Domeskier]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but doesn't the boarder go off the jump prior to the skier? My guess would be they didn't clear the table top and fell on the landing.

Yes, you can see the boarder heading up the jump at the start of the video. I think the skier is at fault here.

 

[makimono]

foul language alert

It looks liker the skier dad catches up to and skis into the pod of snowboarders from behind, then complains that they're jibbing around his family. You can ever hear the boarder with the camera tell him to "just slow down your people, eh?" (I think that's what he says) probably in response to the guy bitching at them already.

I gotta agree, if you see a pack of kids up ahead having fun why would you intentionally ski your whole family right into the middle of them? Why not slow down like the guy suggested and let them get some distance?

Unless I'm seeing it wrong?

 

[BenedictGomez]

The stereotype for skiers vs boarders is reversed in that video.I have to wonder why you take your shirt off to fight when your a skinny dude,but it did seem to work.haha.

Everyone in that video is the loser.

 

[Edd]

Everyone in that video is the loser.

Yeah, it's almost depressing. I've never seen anything like that on the slopes.

 

[deadheadskier]

Everyone in that video is the loser.

100%

wow

 

[thetrailboss]

foul language alert

Yeah, that is a classic. It went viral a couple years ago....Whistler IIRC. It almost seems fake...the two skiers were just complete assholes. I can't tell if that was the wife or a third-party woman who told the Dad to get the [bleep] out of there. Completely ridiculous.

 

[BenedictGomez]

that is a classic. It went viral a couple years ago....Whistler IIRC. It almost seems fake

Hmmmm....... someone might be onto something.

 

[deadheadskier]

If it's not staged, I can't understand what would possess those idiots to post a video of the confrontation on the internet. The "dad" was clearly the instigator and bigger deuche, especially doing so in front of his kids, but the guys filming certainly started to act like morons themselves.

 

[BenedictGomez]

If it's not staged, I can't understand what would possess those idiots to post a video of the confrontation on the internet. The "dad" was clearly the instigator and bigger deuche, especially doing so in front of his kids, but the guys filming certainly started to act like morons themselves.

Not only that, but when I read TTB's post, it triggered how the tall, doofy snowboarder kept saying sortof the same thing, almost like a line. If you watch it a second time, it does seem sort of rehearsed.

I'm sure I'm overanalyzing this, but watching it a 2nd time it wouldnt shock me at all if it's fake. Take a GOOD looks at 0:27. The "punch" is pretty weak, pretty staight-armed, and the snowboarder goes down in a very calculated, somewhat bizarrely linear fashion.

If I were forced to put money on it at this point, I'm going with "staged".

 

[skiNEwhere]

Well that's 4 minutes of their life they lost skiing/boarding that they won't get back, damn shame, looked like a really good day too

 

[thetrailboss]

If it's not staged, I can't understand what would possess those idiots to post a video of the confrontation on the internet. The "dad" was clearly the instigator and bigger deuche, especially doing so in front of his kids, but the guys filming certainly started to act like morons themselves.

Yeah, we were all teenagers once too.

Not only that, but when I read TTB's post, it triggered how the tall, doofy snowboarder kept saying sortof the same thing, almost like a line. If you watch it a second time, it does seem sort of rehearsed.

I'm sure I'm overanalyzing this, but watching it a 2nd time it wouldnt shock me at all if it's fake. Take a GOOD looks at 0:27. The "punch" is pretty weak, pretty staight-armed, and the snowboarder goes down in a very calculated, somewhat bizarrely linear fashion.

If I were forced to put money on it at this point, I'm going with "staged".

I watched it twice last night after seeing it way back when. It just seemed to me to be oddly "perfect" timing and it seemed odd to me that I could hear everything that was said. Granted I don't know what kind of camera he has or if the guys themselves were miked for their video, but I find it strange that you can hear everything so clearly and that ski patrol/others don't stop. Just seemed odd on the second look.

And is it just me or is it funny that the Dad at 1:01 starts ranting at how dangerous they were and how they broke the code and that he was going to kick their asses. Sounds like our buddy Sheriff HS! Highwaystar is that you? :lol: