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[highpeaksdrifter]

When did I suggest it would be a total blow out? I merely suggested leveling the playing field a bit. Was it presumptious of me to think I was going to get blown away on Chute without ever having seen 2knees ski? Sounds like you are taking it seriously too trying to put words in my mouth suggesting I said it would be a blow out. If I was taking it seriously, why did I bother with two emoticons? Who is over analyzing? Well, we both are now.

Definitely mid-August. I wasn't taking it seriously in my last post. I was taking it quite humorously. Now I am taking it seriously.

What difference does it make how anyone thinks someone else skis? In most cases the critiques are based on very limited observations anyway. It’s a fun thread not to be taken seriously. You know how you ski and I would hope you’re a confident person and are happy with that.

I'm not starting with you Oil really. In the end what difference does it make if 2knees is a better skier then you or not.

BTW-I remember axin Greg in person about several AZer's skill level and he spoke very highly of yours.

 

[Greg]

When did I suggest it would be a total blow out? I merely suggested leveling the playing field a bit. Was it presumptious of me to think I was going to get blown away on Chute without ever having seen 2knees ski? Sounds like you are taking it seriously too trying to put words in my mouth suggesting I said it would be a blow out. If I was taking it seriously, why did I bother with two emoticons? Who is over analyzing? Well, we both are now.

Definitely mid-August. I wasn't taking it seriously in my last post. I was taking it quite humorously. Now I am taking it seriously.

Sweet. This thread is starting to become the shit-talking' flamefest I though it would. Definitely August. :lol:

"would probably give 2knees the advantage since there are not really any terrain aspects and it is just straight moguls down Chute"

Translation: 2knees probably sucks on anything other than bumps.

"Let's move it down a few hundred feet to Liftline and take the combined for both segments Move it a little to skier's left into the trees and now we're talking"

Translation: 2knees probably sucks on anything other than bumps.

Presumptious indeed.

(Emoticons included lest anyone thinks I'm being too serious. Which is bullshit because as we all know they just gives us a pass to say what we really think.) :lol:

 

[cbcbd]

2knees would eat most of us alive in the bumps...

...to give anyone a slight chance at a comp you would have to include at least something else other than bumps, or else it would be game over before it even started.

Not saying 2knees can't handle the trees, it's just that we all fear him in the bumps.

I think that's what RC was saying.

smilies are for pansies...

 

[Greg]

2knees would eat most of us alive in the bumps...

...to give anyone a slight chance at a comp you would have to include at least something else other than bumps, or else it would be game over before it even started.

Not saying 2knees can't handle the trees, it's just that we all fear him in the bumps.

I think that's what RC was saying.

smilies are for pansies...

2knees can rip the bumps. Quite frankly, Steve should be flattered I think he's a good enough overall skier that he would still be competitive with Pat in a pure mogul contest. He took it totally the wrong way. But what the hell do I know...

And I would kick andyzee's ass. :lol:

 

[snoseek]

I can roll pretty good on the chairlift......in the wind. Maybe not as good as GSS though...hmmmm

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I can roll pretty good on the chairlift......in the wind. Maybe not as good as GSS though...hmmmm

I've had alot of practice but in the wind is tough..but possible..

 

[Geoff]

I've had alot of practice but in the wind is tough..but possible..

I'm having flashbacks to the late-1970's. You roll it in your coat pocket 1-handed. You need to have pre-cleaned the worst of the twigs & seeds and you need at least a 1 1/2 rolling paper or you'll make a mess out of it.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I'm having flashbacks to the late-1970's. You roll it in your coat pocket 1-handed. You need to have pre-cleaned the worst of the twigs & seeds and you need at least a 1 1/2 rolling paper or you'll make a mess out of it.

EZwider Double wides rock..

 

[ripzillia]

 

[koreshot]

2knees would eat most of us alive in the bumps...

...to give anyone a slight chance at a comp you would have to include at least something else other than bumps, or else it would be game over before it even started.

Not saying 2knees can't handle the trees, it's just that we all fear him in the bumps.

I think that's what RC was saying.

smilies are for pansies...

Never skied with 2knees but have seen enough video footage to prove that he rips in the bumps - big time.

That being said, too much freaking focus on the bumps! Being a good skier means being able to handle any condition and challenge the mountain throws at you. Given Steve's credentials, I would expect him to more than stand his ground anywhere outside a mogul field.

Jamie Pierre can break world records in cliff hucks (even if he lands on his head most of the time), but it don't make him a better skier than the greats like Shane McConkey.

 

[Greg]

That being said, too much freaking focus on the bumps! Being a good skier means being able to handle any condition and challenge the mountain throws at you.

Pfft. Remember, [thread="8100"]bumps make the man[/thread]. I've never seen a guy that can rip moguls, struggle elsewhere.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Pfft. Remember, [thread="8100"]bumps make the man[/thread]. I've never seen a guy that can rip moguls, struggle elsewhere.

What about ripping big fast GS turns through deep crud..that's one of my favorites..on fat skis or race skis..

 

[koreshot]

Pfft. Remember, [thread="8100"]bumps make the man[/thread]. I've never seen a guy that can rip moguls, struggle elsewhere.

I read through some of that thread - I think we are in agreement. Anyone that claims to be an expert skier needs to be a solid bump skier, but he doesn't have to be a bump God. My lack of bump skills is probably the number one reason I would never call myself an expert skier. But I would laugh at anyone who can't carve and calls themselves an expert.

You made a statement in the other thread that the best skiers were in the mogul fields. I think that is mostly true on the east coast, because most EC ski areas offer groomers, steep groomers and bump runs - bump runs are harder to ski than steep groomers. But out West, I rarely see the best skiers in the bumps, most of them are skiing impossibly steep runs at mach speed, dropping cliffs and laughing at avy and other exposures.

 

[snoseek]

You made a statement in the other thread that the best skiers were in the mogul fields. I think that is mostly true on the east coast, because most EC ski areas offer groomers, steep groomers and bump runs - bump runs are harder to ski than steep groomers. But out West, I rarely see the best skiers in the bumps, most of them are skiing impossibly steep runs at mach speed, dropping cliffs and laughing at avy and other exposures.

What you're saying makes sense. I met some several really good skiers at Loveland thet despise moguls unless they're really soft. They mostly go there to avoid the Neverending Summit County Mogul field.

 

[chase]

Pfft. Remember, [thread="8100"]bumps make the man[/thread]. I've never seen a guy that can rip moguls, struggle elsewhere.

I"m really not trying to be a prick here but have you ever skied a place like jackson or snowbird.?

Disclaimer:I ski bumps a lot and believe that if you are skiing a "small area" they are the best way to develop the skills needed to ski bigger mountains.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I"m really not trying to be a prick here but have you ever skied a place like jackson or snowbird.?

Disclaimer:I ski bumps a lot and believe that if you are skiing a "small area" they are the best way to develop the skills needed to ski bigger mountains.

I don't think Greg has ever skied out west..but shit in the east is so flat in comparison and stuff out west can be so steep and humbling..since a wrong turn can mean a ragdoll fall over rocks..Yes there are some steep pitches in the east but most aren't sustained for over a couple hundred vert..

 

[Greg]

I haven't been out West. And remember, this is a Northeast specific forum and most of the conversation is in that vein. Put some of those guys that huck big drops out West on some icy East coast bumps and I bet some would flail around a bit. Different advanced/expert skiing skill sets.

 

[deadheadskier]

I haven't been out West. And remember, this is a Northeast specific forum and most of the conversation is in that vein. Put some of those guys that huck big drops out West on some icy East coast bumps and I bet some would flail around a bit. Different advanced/expert skiing skill sets.

There is some degree of truth to this statement, but I'd imagine far more east coasters get intimidated and struggle on the West Coast steeps than vice versa.

I actually had an experience that kind of demonstrates what you are saying. My last time out west was March of 01 in the Aspen area. I was skiing Snowmass one of the days and the conditions sucked. It seriously compared to an icy east coast day. I didn't want to let it deter me from skiing some of there harder trails. I skied one particular chute on the Hanging Valley Wall quite well as the ski patrol looked up from the bottom as they had just opened it. When I got to the bottom they said they were accepting applications and could use a few more patrol that could handle those type of conditions. They also said you must be from the east coast. :lol:

 

[tjf67]

There is some degree of truth to this statement, but I'd imagine far more east coasters get intimidated and struggle on the West Coast steeps than vice versa.

I actually had an experience that kind of demonstrates what you are saying. My last time out west was March of 01 in the Aspen area. I was skiing Snowmass one of the days and the conditions sucked. It seriously compared to an icy east coast day. I didn't want to let it deter me from skiing some of there harder trails. I skied one particular chute on the Hanging Valley Wall quite well as the ski patrol looked up from the bottom as they had just opened it. When I got to the bottom they said they were accepting applications and could use a few more patrol that could handle those type of conditions. They also said you must be from the east coast. :lol:

toot toot

 

[deadheadskier]

toot toot

hey, I'm no pro my friend and this was seven years ago. It's a rare event that I toot my horn on here and I'm sure if I went back out there today to ski the same line, I'd probably get laughed at by the patrollers :lol: