Ski-Off Time!

[tjf67]

hey, I'm no pro my friend and this was seven years ago. It's a rare event that I toot my horn on here and I'm sure if I went back out there today to ski the same line, I'd probably get laughed at by the patrollers :lol:

Only kidding and there is nothing wrong with tooting you own horn. I just got a little chuckle out of it and threw it out there

 

[Geoff]

There is some degree of truth to this statement, but I'd imagine far more east coasters get intimidated and struggle on the West Coast steeps than vice versa.

I think an awful lot of reasonably competent eastern mogul skiers really struggle in no-fall western steeps. When you get up around 45 degrees, any flaw in your technique really gets amplified.

I remember skiing at Killington with a guy who was in for a day from Breckenridge. He was PSIA Level III certified. He had absolutely no ability to read eastern terrain. We read the difference between the gray bullet-proof and the white softer snow without even thinking about it and automatically avoid the gray spots. He didn't have that skill and was all over the place. Give him a week with eastern conditions and he'd be just fine... though he'd probably bail out back to Colorado after 2 or 3 days of it.

 

[Greg]

toot toot

hey, I'm no pro my friend and this was seven years ago. It's a rare event that I toot my horn on here and I'm sure if I went back out there today to ski the same line, I'd probably get laughed at by the patrollers :lol:

tjf67 vs. deadheadskier

:lol:

 

[deadheadskier]

tjf67 vs. deadheadskier

:lol:

at Snowmass on the Hanging Valley Wall, judged by ski patrol












trip sponsored by Greg and Alpinezone :lol:

 

[tjf67]

I think an awful lot of reasonably competent eastern mogul skiers really struggle in no-fall western steeps. When you get up around 45 degrees, any flaw in your technique really gets amplified.

I remember skiing at Killington with a guy who was in for a day from Breckenridge. He was PSIA Level III certified. He had absolutely no ability to read eastern terrain. We read the difference between the gray bullet-proof and the white softer snow without even thinking about it and automatically avoid the gray spots. He didn't have that skill and was all over the place. Give him a week with eastern conditions and he'd be just fine... though he'd probably bail out back to Colorado after 2 or 3 days of it.

It does not take long for and easterner to get used to the steeps out west. It more intimidating than anything else. Once you get into it and see that you can set an edge and hold it turn into super adreniline rushes. Comming out of each turn launching 10 to 15 feat then landing into the next turn. Fun Fun.
Western hills do get ice. When it gets up to 50 during the day then down to 10 at night. Early the next morning you may as well stay in bed.

 

[tjf67]

at Snowmass on the Hanging Valley Wall, judged by ski patrol












trip sponsored by Greg and Alpinezone :lol:

A sponsored trip and I am in

 

[Geoff]

at Snowmass on the Hanging Valley Wall, judged by ski patrol

I did a rag doll tumble down that in the early 1990's. I dropped in at an untracked area and discovered it was windblown rather than fluff. Instead of completing my first turn, I heard "click-click" as I double released. Both ski pole shafts pulled out of the grips on the way down. No damage other than a fat lip. My shell pants were down around my ankles and I'd ripped out the top foot of the side zipper.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

I haven't been out West. And remember, this is a Northeast specific forum and most of the conversation is in that vein. Put some of those guys that huck big drops out West on some icy East coast bumps and I bet some would flail around a bit. Different advanced/expert skiing skill sets.

Greg, you need to get out west...everything is better, bigger, and softer. You'd love Highline at Vail...very long bump run next to an old school double...or Prima, Pronto, LogChute...Vail's bump tri-fecta. Thames at Park City-where the US mogul team practices...High Rustler at Alta-one mean a$$ run when its bumped. Taos, Telluride, Winter Park...all bump meccas waiting for you to visit.

Granted, this is a northeastern forum, but when we're talking all around skiing skills, if you haven't done some time out west and can handle the different conditions, exposures, etc your skill set is not complete regardless of how solid someone is in bumps or trees here in the east.

Personally, I think the best tree skiers are better all mtn skiers than the best bumpers. IMO it takes a broader skill set..but they're not right under the lift and easy to spot.

 

[Greg]

Greg, you need to get out west.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Not going to be in the cards for some time financially.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

Thanks Captain Obvious.

touche

 

[deadheadskier]

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Not going to be in the cards for some time financially.

Hey bvibert sponsored his other wife to go out to Abasin with the divas in May, maybe this year you'll be the lucky recipient. :lol:

 

[jarrodski]

how about true king of the mountain...

one run bumps, one run trees, one run gates, one run park (intro/progression park if you'd like) one run skis, one run snowboard... one run bar, one run shots and go....

i like scuba steve (can't ever remember his screen name) vs. patches on jacket guy (2kness???)

I'm giving it to steve cause he seemed to skip a lot more obligations in the spring than most and never had anything but a shit eating grin, which leads me to believe he'll take top honors in the bar catagories...

 

[Greg]

i like scuba steve (can't ever remember his screen name) vs. patches on jacket guy (2kness???)

Steve, as in powhunter?

Patches on jacket guy is MrMagic. 2knees is the AZ celeb on your Events calendar:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/32221-some-azer-famous-re-sundown-bump-bust.html

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I haven't been out West. And remember, this is a Northeast specific forum and most of the conversation is in that vein. Put some of those guys that huck big drops out West on some icy East coast bumps and I bet some would flail around a bit. Different advanced/expert skiing skill sets.

Most of the people hucking big drops out west are from the East..

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

It does not take long for and easterner to get used to the steeps out west. It more intimidating than anything else. Once you get into it and see that you can set an edge and hold it turn into super adreniline rushes. Comming out of each turn launching 10 to 15 feat then landing into the next turn. Fun Fun.
Western hills do get ice. When it gets up to 50 during the day then down to 10 at night. Early the next morning you may as well stay in bed.

Early in the morning on days like that are for mad steezy speed on the groomers...zoom

 

[cbcbd]

Most of the people hucking big drops out west are from the East..

Chris Davenport, Doug Coombs (RIP)... native massholers

 

[jarrodski]

Steve, as in powhunter?

Patches on jacket guy is MrMagic. 2knees is the AZ celeb on your Events calendar:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/32221-some-azer-famous-re-sundown-bump-bust.html

ahh yes... them's be those guys...

 

[chase]

Most of the people hucking big drops out west are from the East..

True most west coast rippers get their skills from the ice and moguls of the east but they still need to spend some time on western terrain before they can really tear it up out there...regardless of how sound an easterners mogul or racing skills may be they will still be humbled on their first trip to a serious western hill...

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

True most west coast rippers get their skills from the ice and moguls of the east but they still need to spend some time on western terrain before they can really tear it up out there...regardless of how sound an easterners mogul or racing skills may be they will still be humbled on their first trip to a serious western hill...

I agree..I still won't ski Corbetts..

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

I agree..I still won't ski Corbetts..

neither will most J-hole locals...doesn't mean they can't though.