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snowmonster

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Nice link though I would sharpen the edges before I hot wax. This lessens the chance of my files getting gummed up by the wax and keeps iron filings out of my waxed bases.

I'm kind of finicky with my skis and do all my waxing and tuning. But, if the scratch does not expose core material, I usually just let it go. If it isn't too deep, it usually gets scraped away during waxing. When it's deep but not a core shot, I'll fill that when I do a half-season tune or when I'm doing a core shot repair.
 

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the problem is people like you have been conditioned by ski resorts and their incessant grooming to expect that every single trail on the mountain is going to be sanitized perfectly for your protection.

Obviously, you don't read and just default to your prejudices. I am asking a question about skis, so I must be the type that go to Deer Valley and have their skis carried. Well, good luck to you with all your prejudices, it must be hard.
 

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Obviously, you don't read and just default to your prejudices. I am asking a question about skis, so I must be the type that go to Deer Valley and have their skis carried. Well, good luck to you with all your prejudices, it must be hard.

right

obviously this whole thing is my fault, I should have realized that when you were threatening to write nasty emails to the mountain chiding them about their "mistake" and informing them that it was due to their "negligence" that your skis have some scratches that you were a hardcore 100 day a year skier and not a Deer Valley type. I'm so sorry and I completely regret my mistake, For certain I should have picked up on your radness when you asked for recommendations for a good ski shop to do a tune in the NYC metro area.

I promise it won't happen again...honest
 

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Obviously, you don't read and just default to your prejudices. I am asking a question about skis, so I must be the type that go to Deer Valley and have their skis carried. Well, good luck to you with all your prejudices, it must be hard.

He was an abused child.....
Just have them tuned,they'll be fine.Now you could send the repair bill to Hunter. I know in the past when working at areas,if say a lift wheel dripped grease/oil on to a customers brand new white Bogner one piece.............we'd ante up.
 

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Obviously, you don't read and just default to your prejudices. I am asking a question about skis, so I must be the type that go to Deer Valley and have their skis carried. Well, good luck to you with all your prejudices, it must be hard.

What's wrong with Deer Valley? What's wrong with having employees help you unload your car and put your skis in the rack? A lot of people are willing to spend a little extra to get that level of service. Besides, I really like the place. Deer Valley has some really nice ungroomed and tree skiing. They have great base lodges, superb food, and excellent staff. They're even nice enough to provide an experts-only trail map showing you were it all is. At most mountains, the locals would be burning a cross in front of the main office for doing that.

The take away from this is:

Unless you've damaged an edge, any base damage can be easily repaired. My skis go in all the time looking like a complete mess and come out looking new. With a base weld machine to repair core shots, a skid laser to recondition the base, and a good flat grinder, you'll never know you hit anything.

Find yourself a shop with the right equipment and staff that knows how to use it and stop worrying about hitting things since it's just an unnecessary thing to stress over. ...unless you pull an edge.
 

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What's wrong with Deer Valley? What's wrong with having employees help you unload your car and put your skis in the rack? A lot of people are willing to spend a little extra to get that level of service. Besides, I really like the place. Deer Valley has some really nice ungroomed and tree skiing. They have great base lodges, superb food, and excellent staff. They're even nice enough to provide an experts-only trail map showing you were it all is. At most mountains, the locals would be burning a cross in front of the main office for doing that.

Nothing. I don't care about how other people ski or what they do before that. If it makes them happy, fine by me. I don't group them into categories either. I was trying to make a point by naming the stereotype in his head. Looking at the response apparently there are only the nancies and the 100-day skiers in the world.
 

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Edges are an easy fix.

Best tuner in the metro new york area...Brad Sweeney at the Loft in Tannersville Pa. It's on Camelback road. The guy's been there from the begining........Spademan begining. You will not find a better mechanic anywhere.......and the guy can RIP.
 

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Wow...a lot of bad energy here. Let's focus on fixing the problem.

Try Princeton or Emilios. If you don't like them, I'll drip some ptex into the gouge and scrape it flat for you for free. Just got to work out the logistics of how to pass the skis off to me.

I know the spot your talking about...it's always bad over there. Damage happens...most of mine is in the woods. It's not a bad thing to learn some simple ski repair techniques for the future.
 

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Oh no dude not Princeton!!! I've worked some of the stadium shows and mounted skis before the bolt together systems.........It's not a pretty site. Your better off doing them yourself.

http://www.wikihow.com/index.php?title=Tune-a-Ski&redirect=no

Here's a link on how to..

Meh....they can drip some ptex into the base. It's not major repair. Personally, I think that wax will fill the damage anyway. They'll just throw it into a machine for that, probably.
 

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Thanks, very genorous of you to offer. I'll try to make it to Princeton Ski Shop or a mountain shop when I go skiing this weekend. The Pro at Hunter should be good, right? I got my boots there and Keith was very helpful at the time.

I want to get into maintenance and simple repair based on what I read on a couple of other threads here. Given that I am thinking about skiing the whole day, I am guessing I will like working on my skis. :D
 

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I can see this crew has not done much tuning. You can have a $100,000 Montana a recieve a shitty tune. Machines and tuning equipment are only as good as the monkey holding the file. Yeah so that guy at Princton whom skies about five days a season and works the pool crew in the summer...................yeah that guy, yeah, I wan't him tuning my stuff......smart.
 

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I think some pictures of the damage would be in order...not that it would change what you need to do but at least you could get an online assessment FWIW.
 

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So, you are saying that it is OK to have rocks built into the trail in a way that wouldn't be visible to skiers before they are on them? While we are at it, why don't we also get some electric shocks on the chairs?

Them closing that trail entrance (not the trail) half an hour into the day shows that they admit their mistake.

If you have something to say without an 8 year old's attitude, please say it.

Oh yea, those rocks where totally built into the trail. They had to get expensive rock placing experts to come in on contract to design them in like that.

It happens. And your skis are fine. Bases get scratches like that all the time, it's actually normal. Depending on how deep the scratch is, it will just fill in with wax. However if it is indeed a gouge, any ski shop can for the most part fix it pretty cheap. Here's what they end up doing. They melt the ptex (that's the same plastic the base is made of) right into the area, and then scrape it flat again. Poof! Even near core-shots can be repaired. It's not the end of the world.

Can you post a picture of it?
 

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I can see this crew has not done much tuning. .

You've already made it clear that you don't like Princeton. Actually it seems that you have some ax to grind from your days mounting for them at Giants Stadium.

Look, this is a minor damage, if any. It may need some ptex but a good waxing will probably fill in the damage for a bit. I tune and repair my own gear so, I really don't know the quality of Princeton's or Emilio's work. I'm just trying to help the guy find a place to go to near his home.....jeeeze. :roll:

Got a shop suggestion?

Root: I saw that the one on the island is closed. I don't know about their other stores.
 

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Obviously, every part of every trail should have a patroller scope it out before opening, early enough so that they can get back up to rope off any spot that might have some debris. Look, crap happens. I doubt it's a systemic issue, so stop acting like this is a big deal.

Heck, I've skied probably 15-20 days this year with an unrepaired core shot. 1/8th inch deep foot long gauges are nothing. If it's not a core shot and you couldn't immediately tell that the bases were scratched, I wouldn't even bother worrying about it until the next tune. Your edges could probably use more attention than your base. If I was tuning my skis and the deepest scratch was less than 2mm deep, I probably wouldn't even bother with ptex. Too much risk of burning myself to make it worth it.
 

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You've already made it clear that you don't like Princeton. Actually it seems that you have some ax to grind from your days mounting for them at Giants Stadium.

Look, this is a minor damage, if any. It may need some ptex but a good waxing will probably fill in the damage for a bit. I tune and repair my own gear so, I really don't know the quality of Princeton's or Emilio's work. I'm just trying to help the guy find a place to go to near his home.....jeeeze. :roll:

Got a shop suggestion?

Root: I saw that the one on the island is closed. I don't know about their other stores.

Nope,I don't have an ax to grind I have skis to grind. As a mountain mechanic ,I've seen stuff on the hill that just isn't safe. Mis-sized boots,bindings mounted incorrectly,rental equipment not adjusted properly. Next time your at the repair shop on any mountain take a good look around,somewhere in that shop you will see the count board. This is the board used to keep track of how many screw ups come from each shop off of the mountain.

As for shops I posted one up earlier.
The Loft
Tannersville, Pa.
570-629-2627
 

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I always look at dings and scratches as badges of honor, proof you did something that day. If nothing else, tuning skis is a great way to meditatively spend an hour or two with a couple of frosty beverages.
 
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