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skier vs. snowboarder

Jcb890

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I tapped a skier's ski.. 60yo man,with my board by accident in line once.. Said so sorry..and he wacked me with his pole twice. I wanted to break his spine. But oh well. Clearly there is more to this story than meets the eye

I had an incident last year which I'm not too proud of...

I was coming down a trail with a big swooping left-hand turn which went into a flat-ish section where a trail merged from the right and also the left (where I was coming from). There was nobody coming from the right, so I was good there. However, at the last second I caught with my eye a woman on skis walking her way across the trail without looking. I was unable to stop, unfortunately and wound up losing my heel edge while trying to stop and slammed into her left side with my heel side as I hit the ground... so maybe more of the bottom of my board than the heel edge. Luckily, most of the impact was absorbed by her pole, which I saw was bent almost in half when I got up afterwards.

I was not sure who's fault it was as I should have been able to stop and she should have both not crossed directly across the trail and if she was going to, she should have looked up the hill to make sure the coast was clear before crossing.

Anyways, I felt really really bad and was very apologetic and made sure she was okay. Thankfully she was OK, no damage other than to her ski pole and my board got a nice gouge from that, but both of us were physically fine, just a bit shaken. I helped her get up, apologized profusely and kept asking to make sure she was OK. What I assume was her husband and teenage son were both on the side of the trail and saw everything happen... neither of them said anything until the very end when I was getting up. Her teenage son started talking shit to me, so I ignored him at first, then when he wouldn't stop, I told him off. The whole thing was pretty upsetting and it kind of bothered me that neither her, nor her husband asked if I was okay at all and I took the entirety of the blame for the incident. Maybe it was entirely my fault, but personally I do not feel that way. Either way, it would have been nice for them to make sure I wasn't hurt like I did for them. The whole thing shook me up and I ended my day after that (happened shortly after lunch break).
 

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I had an incident last year which I'm not too proud of...

I was coming down a trail with a big swooping left-hand turn which went into a flat-ish section where a trail merged from the right and also the left (where I was coming from). There was nobody coming from the right, so I was good there. However, at the last second I caught with my eye a woman on skis walking her way across the trail without looking. I was unable to stop, unfortunately and wound up losing my heel edge while trying to stop and slammed into her left side with my heel side as I hit the ground... so maybe more of the bottom of my board than the heel edge. Luckily, most of the impact was absorbed by her pole, which I saw was bent almost in half when I got up afterwards.

I was not sure who's fault it was as I should have been able to stop and she should have both not crossed directly across the trail and if she was going to, she should have looked up the hill to make sure the coast was clear before crossing.

Anyways, I felt really really bad and was very apologetic and made sure she was okay. Thankfully she was OK, no damage other than to her ski pole and my board got a nice gouge from that, but both of us were physically fine, just a bit shaken. I helped her get up, apologized profusely and kept asking to make sure she was OK. What I assume was her husband and teenage son were both on the side of the trail and saw everything happen... neither of them said anything until the very end when I was getting up. Her teenage son started talking shit to me, so I ignored him at first, then when he wouldn't stop, I told him off. The whole thing was pretty upsetting and it kind of bothered me that neither her, nor her husband asked if I was okay at all and I took the entirety of the blame for the incident. Maybe it was entirely my fault, but personally I do not feel that way. Either way, it would have been nice for them to make sure I wasn't hurt like I did for them. The whole thing shook me up and I ended my day after that (happened shortly after lunch break).

I wouldn't sweat it. You're supposed to be in control and able to stop but if you can't see, you can't see. It sounds like she crossed in a blind spot. It all looks well and good looking up the trail like the father and son were, but to you she was in defilade or invisible.
 

Jcb890

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I wouldn't sweat it. You're supposed to be in control and able to stop but if you can't see, you can't see. It sounds like she crossed in a blind spot. It all looks well and good looking up the trail like the father and son were, but to you she was in defilade or invisible.

Oh I'm over it and not worried about it now at all, this happened last season. I just wanted to share my experience and show that while not everyone always cares about one another, you still should be courteous and always make sure people are okay if there is an incident.
 

Bene288

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Oh I'm over it and not worried about it now at all, this happened last season. I just wanted to share my experience and show that while not everyone always cares about one another, you still should be courteous and always make sure people are okay if there is an incident.

Absolutely. It's unfortunate not everyone operates this way.
 

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Aspen Skier Who Pusher Snowboarder From Chairlift Arrested


throw the punk in jail!

http://unofficialnetworks.com/2016/02/aspen-skier-who-pusher-snowboarder-from-chairlift-arrested

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It seems that Proesel is suffering from a serious mental illness.

Yeah no kidding. Nice lazy eye...he looks like he's been huffing turpentine.
 

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Looks like the skier got thrown slightly forward which kept him from being able to turn at the last moment. Still though, he's in a wide open bowl. Why does he has to get that close to the boarder?
 

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Looks like the skier got thrown slightly forward which kept him from being able to turn at the last moment. Still though, he's in a wide open bowl. Why does he has to get that close to the boarder?

i assume they were buddies, as they both contributed footage to the final video.. unless of course they simply met during the accident and laughed about it over beers at the end of the day.
 

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Oh I'm over it and not worried about it now at all, this happened last season. I just wanted to share my experience and show that while not everyone always cares about one another, you still should be courteous and always make sure people are okay if there is an incident.

People downhill from you always have the right of way.
By definition, it you hit someone or something, you are out of control.

What appears to have upset you more was the son castigating you over the incident.
Owning up to being at fault is expected. You get no points for that. Be more careful.
 

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i assume they were buddies, as they both contributed footage to the final video..

I'm going with this ^^

It looks like the skier was going for the epic pow slash/spray job on his buddies gopro (and face) and biffed it...u can see at the 5 second mark the tip of his left ski dip below the snow and hang up...
 

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People downhill from you always have the right of way.
By definition, it you hit someone or something, you are out of control.

Then why is there a line that says a skier entering a trail should look up hill?
If this is the case - why should they even care?
 

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Then why is there a line that says a skier entering a trail should look up hill?
If this is the case - why should they even care?

Well there's the whole self-preservation thing. Being "right" isn't everyone's only concern, not getting hurt is worth something too. Pedestrians have the right-of-way in a crosswalk. That doesn't mean I just step out into speeding traffic because I have the right to. You can be "right" and be dead at the same time.
 

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Pedestrians have the right-of-way in a crosswalk. That doesn't mean I just step out into speeding traffic because I have the right to.

It amazes me how many times people do exactly that and then get pissed when cars don't slam on their brakes to let them cross...

Responsibility there needs to be shared just as on the slopes it needs to be shared by both the uphill skier looking out for the people in front of them as well as the downhill skier that is just starting to go and essentially "merging into traffic".
 
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