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JimG.

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To be very objective, doesn't this remind us of when the TGR boys were over here making a fuss? It's not the exact same thing, but it does remind me of that situation. We didn't like it very much then, so I don't think we ought to continue to push this one.

Ski999 may seem over the top with his posts on the PA site, but it's clear he is genuinely offended by some of the tongue in cheek stuff written.

I can't say he's wrong because I ski at Hunter and everyone (including Ski999) loves to bash Hunter. And apparently he used to ski and work there so he really knows the place.

I don't like it when folks bash my home hill which is why I don't do that to other mountains, especially if I've never been there. Anyway, I'm guessing this post won't be too popular here, and I agree Ski999 is being a little too sensitive, but we ought to be respectful nevertheless.
 

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JimG. said:
To be very objective, doesn't this remind us of when the TGR boys were over here making a fuss? It's not the exact same thing, but it does remind me of that situation. We didn't like it very much then, so I don't think we ought to continue to push this one.

I was thinking the same thing. Some of the TGR guys were saying the same things about us...

I say let it go, no need to antagonize anyone... Can't we all just get along??
 

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Brettski said:
Is it OK if we bash Mountain Creek?

And what happened, did you ban the guy a delete all of his posts...

I miss all the fun...

No, he never posted over here, this was on another site that caters to the PA region. He was really offended at what we were posting and he does have a point. Making fun of small ski areas, even those with inflated marketing hype, doesn't do the industry any favors.

He was a little bit over the top and alot of the members of that community felt the same.
 

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bvibert said:
JimG. said:
To be very objective, doesn't this remind us of when the TGR boys were over here making a fuss? It's not the exact same thing, but it does remind me of that situation. We didn't like it very much then, so I don't think we ought to continue to push this one.

I was thinking the same thing. Some of the TGR guys were saying the same things about us...

I say let it go, no need to antagonize anyone... Can't we all just get along??
Come on guys. Totally different situation. Based on the feedback from the PASkiandRide guys, it sounds like this Avalanche trail is a pretty nasty run. That's cool. That was my objective in even posting that thread there. Those guys would know. "ski999" was the one that decided to turn it into a pissing match. In fact, it seems the admins and some of the members there feel the same way. Anyway, Denton's profile is up and I'm done with that thread...
 

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bvibert said:
JimG. said:
To be very objective, doesn't this remind us of when the TGR boys were over here making a fuss? It's not the exact same thing, but it does remind me of that situation. We didn't like it very much then, so I don't think we ought to continue to push this one.

I was thinking the same thing. Some of the TGR guys were saying the same things about us...

I say let it go, no need to antagonize anyone... Can't we all just get along??

Every fish has a bigger one ready to eat it and a smaller one that it's ready to eat...

It's the way of the world..

British Columbia skiers look down on Utah skiers who look down on Colorado skiers who look down on VT skiers who look down on NY skiers who look down on PA skiers who look down on NJ skiers who look down on VA skiiers...
 

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dmc said:
Every fish has a bigger one ready to eat it and a smaller one that it's ready to eat...

It's the way of the world..

British Columbia skiers look down on Utah skiers who look down on Colorado skiers who look down on VT skiers who look down on NY skiers who look down on PA skiers who look down on NJ skiers who look down on VA skiiers...
The skiing food chain! Ha. Post of the week! :beer:
 

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Making fun of small ski areas, even those with inflated marketing hype, doesn't do the industry any favors.

Overall, I agree with you, JimG. But not on this point. Really, calling out those who make baseless and obviously exagerated claims is good for the industry, as it makes them all a little more honest. Consumers are a lot happier making decisions based on what they percieve to be accurate information. Kind of like calling out areas on tehir snow reports. You're much more likely to go somewhere that's reporting amazing snow if you feel like they may be telling the truth.

(just doing my best to uphold our standing as "dorks")
 

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ctenidae said:
Making fun of small ski areas, even those with inflated marketing hype, doesn't do the industry any favors.

Overall, I agree with you, JimG. But not on this point. Really, calling out those who make baseless and obviously exagerated claims is good for the industry, as it makes them all a little more honest. Consumers are a lot happier making decisions based on what they percieve to be accurate information. Kind of like calling out areas on tehir snow reports. You're much more likely to go somewhere that's reporting amazing snow if you feel like they may be telling the truth.

(just doing my best to uphold our standing as "dorks")
In typical C-10 fashion, well said! :beer:
 

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ctenidae said:
Making fun of small ski areas, even those with inflated marketing hype, doesn't do the industry any favors.

Overall, I agree with you, JimG. But not on this point. Really, calling out those who make baseless and obviously exagerated claims is good for the industry, as it makes them all a little more honest. Consumers are a lot happier making decisions based on what they percieve to be accurate information. Kind of like calling out areas on tehir snow reports. You're much more likely to go somewhere that's reporting amazing snow if you feel like they may be telling the truth.

(just doing my best to uphold our standing as "dorks")

Have you been there??
Can anybody among us deny the existence of this drop?
 

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I can deny anything I want to.

On good days I can deny the existance of the entire state of Rhode Island (ok, so that's not very hard to do).


:dunce:
 

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that guy over at the PA board really let it get under his skin..but hey we don't know what makes everyone tick...and he got TICKED OFF...

I skied PA a lot and thinks its ok...I personally never felt truly challenged on anything I ever skied, but thats me..everyones different.

I do think we should do a good bashing of Mountain Creek though..i'm with you Brett... :)

Honestly though...their mountain bike trails are really PRETTY good..

M
 

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Marc- that's an average day for me.

dmc- no, I haven't, and so no, I can't, authoritatively. However, considering the overall quality of the website and the "triple fall line" claim, it does become somewhat difficult to accept at face value their claim to have the steepest slope in the east. You'd think they'd at least throw a picture in to substantiate that claim. I know I would, 'cause it'd be mighty impressive.
 

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ctenidae said:
Marc- that's an average day for me.

dmc- no, I haven't, and so no, I can't, authoritatively. However, considering the overall quality of the website and the "triple fall line" claim, it does become somewhat difficult to accept at face value their claim to have the steepest slope in the east. You'd think they'd at least throw a picture in to substantiate that claim. I know I would, 'cause it'd be mighty impressive.

I think dmc made my point...without first hand knowledge we're all just guessing.
 

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ctenidae said:
...considering the overall quality of the website and the "triple fall line" claim....

Is that a real claim, I thought it was just someone's joke?? :-?
 

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ctenidae said:
Marc- that's an average day for me.

dmc- no, I haven't, and so no, I can't, authoritatively. However, considering the overall quality of the website and the "triple fall line" claim, it does become somewhat difficult to accept at face value their claim to have the steepest slope in the east. You'd think they'd at least throw a picture in to substantiate that claim. I know I would, 'cause it'd be mighty impressive.

It's still an assumption...

I'm skeptical as well.. When I think of stuff like that I think skiers left entrance in the Left Gully at Tucks.. Or Corbettes... Or... whatever...
To think something like that exists in PA.. Seems a stretch.. But I've never been there..
 

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FYI..
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Brettski said:
What's a triple fall line....

1. The line of the trail
2. The line of gravity
3. The line to the bar?

Come I'll start...how many people can you fit in an open air "gondola"?

god is that the STUPIDEST lift you've ever been on? if you're going to put a gondola in at least enclose is so I can warm up slightly.. HA...or some other activities... :D

M
 

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Let's be clear about a coupe of things.

1) I have never been to Ski Denton, and in fact never heard of it until yesterday.

2) I am 100% certain that there is no pitch at that ski area that is equal to or greater than 66 degrees for a length of 20 feet or more. I'm not claiming to be the greatest skier in the world or anything close to that. But I've been to a few places. One place that opened my eyes was Highlands Bowl at Aspen Highlands. When you hike up the ridge to the Bowl, there is a small patrol shack which hands out maps of the expert terrain near the top of Highlands (the Bowl, Temerity, Steeplchase, Oly Bowl). It not only depicts the runs, but also their avg. and maximum steepness. I did a run right down the center of Highlands bowl then cut left into a small stand of trees on a ridge. The trees were there b/c it was pretty much the only place in the bowl that avalanches hadn't scoured them away - the ridge shunted the snow to either side. On the downhill side of that ridge, the run became much steeper to "catch up" to the height of the terrain around it. That was steeper than just about anything I'd been on and it scared me silly for the first turn. Much to my surprise, I found out it was "only" 49 degrees. Folks - that's ridiculously steep. When I see claims of 66 degrees, it can only make me laugh. It's kind of sad really that the Denton marketing dept is either too venal to care (as they hoodwink an unsuspecting public) or too stupid to know.

3) As far as I know, there is no such thing as a "triple fall line". This wasn't a term I made up, it was a specific claim in Denton's descrption of one of its trails.

Why ski999, or anyone else, would get offended when I point out this nonsense is a mystery. Only someone with a massive inferiority complex would take umbrage to pointing out what I did - it should be viewed more as a public service than bashing the state of PA.
 
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