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Stenger and Quiros Ousted from Management of Jay Peak and Burke

crank

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They will. I went to a ski club travel show in NJ back in May and Jay Peak had a corner booth with at least 3 reps. I still get emails from one of their reps trying to entice my club to visit Jay peak.
 

JimG.

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I've been getting at least 2 emails a week from Jay myself. They seem to be going out of their way to make sure skiers know they are going to be open for business as usual this season.
 

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Our ski league has been trying for weeks to get in touch with Jay to verify our planned trip in December. So far nothing but silence from their end. We put a deposit down last year too.
 

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I would think Burke would be going in guns blazing to those shows. Who else can tout a "$55M new hotel".....

They need to drive a bunch of business up and down that hill to maximize the attractiveness to purchasers etc. Then again, if they pull out all the stops there may not be much "meat on the bone" from a buyer perspective.

Which brings us to the next thing about Burke....and it is the same old same old.....in all the noise......I think I lost sight of their snow-making plans for 2016/17.....did Burke upgrade anything?

Or are we still in the doomed cycle of waiting on Mother Nature to shrug off the new weather patterns and save the mountain again?
 

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I would think Burke would be going in guns blazing to those shows. Who else can tout a "$55M new hotel".....

They need to drive a bunch of business up and down that hill to maximize the attractiveness to purchasers etc. Then again, if they pull out all the stops there may not be much "meat on the bone" from a buyer perspective.

Which brings us to the next thing about Burke....and it is the same old same old.....in all the noise......I think I lost sight of their snow-making plans for 2016/17.....did Burke upgrade anything?

Or are we still in the doomed cycle of waiting on Mother Nature to shrug off the new weather patterns and save the mountain again?

Way back somewhere this summer, there was some pictures on Facebook of them removing the booster pumps for overhaul, touting they'd be able to push more water up the hill this year. There was also a note somewhere along the line about rental compressors...

I'm sure that will be a hot topic if they have an early season passholders meeting.
 

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Way back somewhere this summer, there was some pictures on Facebook of them removing the booster pumps for overhaul, touting they'd be able to push more water up the hill this year. There was also a note somewhere along the line about rental compressors...

I'm sure that will be a hot topic if they have an early season passholders meeting.

There is a meeting tentatively scheduled for the weekend of September 24th....with folks able to watch online or call in.
 

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That meeting should be interesting.

I think the current team and receiver etc. deserve a ton of credit for getting the hotel opened and operating but I think success of not only the hotel but the whole mountain hinges on the snow making and/or the lack of.

The same core problem exists as it did last year; a great hotel is an empty hotel if there is no reason to be there.

The passholders that populated the slopes during crappy snow conditions last year and every other year did so because many are condo owners or locals. Condo owners and locals don't fill a hotel. Filling a hotel is a dog eat dog fight for the same asses as every lift in New England is fighting for......those asses book hotels where the snow conditions are great.

So is revamping the pumps and renting compressors enough?
 

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I'm feeling pretty optimistic that it will end up being a night and day difference from what we saw over the last 2 seasons. As long as the temps cooperate better than last year, all those new fan guns will hopefully be running at the same time with towers further up the hill, providing there is enough water and air to actually cover trails further up the hill, at the same time. There was a statement somewhere about them working with BMA on improving the system and doing the deferred maintenance to maximize what they have to work with for this year. Pretty sure it was the same article/statement that mentioned bringing rental compressors back in.

Would be great if they could actually dredge the snowmaking pond bigger this year too, but maybe that is hoping for too much at once.
 

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What is really like to see, is them get together with BMA and approach all the schools and colleges that Jr drove away, and make them a heckuva deal/offer to get the school programs back there again. There was no need of driving that business away.
 

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I would think Burke would be going in guns blazing to those shows. Who else can tout a "$55M new hotel".....

Kind of a delicate marketing situation though in terms of "how much is too much" in terms of promoting the shiny new hotel, as plenty of people are definitely very annoyed by the whole thing.

It's a bit like having a beautiful bride, but not wanting to brag too much lest anyone finds out she's actually mail order.
 

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Kind of a delicate marketing situation though in terms of "how much is too much" in terms of promoting the shiny new hotel, as plenty of people are definitely very annoyed by the whole thing.

It's a bit like having a beautiful bride, but not wanting to brag too much lest anyone finds out she's actually mail order.

Most of the people south of the Nimrod Line (ie. NH Exit 23) have barely heard of Burke. Trust me at a ski show in say CT......no one has heard of Quiros or Stenger.......or at least not many...
 
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Most of the people south of the Nimrod Line (ie. NH Exit 23) have barely heard of Burke. Trust me at a ski show in say CT......no one has heard of Quiros or Stenger.......or at least not many...

Because they drive by Waterville, Loon and Cannon to get there and we all know Loon is where Boston skis!
 
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