Stratton nooz

[shpride]

I think that you just need to understand that you are probably not going to be powder skiing or doing anything wild at Stratton. It just is not that kind of place...and they know that.

The day I went they got about 8 inches that day, and was finding tons of untracked stuff in the trees throughout the day. It seemed like most people don't like to go searching there.

 

[Starter Jackets Rule!]

seems to be pretty hip to bash on the Strattons/Okemos of the skiworld around here. seem to have replaced Hunter as the place to throw potshots at to gain points

granted, the terrain at either place is nothing to get excited about. however, their service, lifts and amenities are all top notch. while i can;t say i;ve ever had a really thrilling day due to the challenging terrain at either resort, I can;t say that I;ve ever had a really terrible day either because the service was pretty good.

plus, is there any place that;s terrible when you get good snow?

Ha-Ha true words spoken above.
the only days I ever ski Stratton is during the E.W.R.S.A. on snow demo.
And when ever I cop a free pass.
Nice looking women can be picked up if you ski well,and walk the walk and talk the Stratton talk!!
(wink).

 

[2knees]

seems to be pretty hip to bash on the Strattons/Okemos of the skiworld around here. seem to have replaced Hunter as the place to throw potshots at to gain points

granted, the terrain at either place is nothing to get excited about. however, their service, lifts and amenities are all top notch. while i can;t say i;ve ever had a really thrilling day due to the challenging terrain at either resort, I can;t say that I;ve ever had a really terrible day either because the service was pretty good.

plus, is there any place that;s terrible when you get good snow?

+1 i'll ski anywhere and probably enjoy myself. of course there are areas i prefer more then others. but i dont see the need to hate on ski areas or rag on people for skiing there.

some more A+ okemo bashing in this thread.

http://forums.alpinezone.com/31123-new-jackson-gore-terrain.html

 

[Eski]

I've taken trips there each of the past few years, either the giveaway or on a voucher ... I've nothing negative to say, each time there I experienced great coverage, zero lift lines and sunshine ... there's plenty there to keep a smile on my face

people ragging on ski areas is just plain horseshite ... not everyone can afford or have the time to visit the elite areas and making turns anywhere is better than making them nowhere and busting someone's balls about it

 

[tekweezle]

i skied at stratton during a 12-24 inch dumping way back when i wasn;t nearly experienced as a skier as i am today. had a blast but as an intermediate at the time and looking out for 6 other beginner/intermediates in my group with little to no powder skills or appreciation, i remember saying to myself i wish i they did some grooming as the trails were all moguled up and were downright hazardous on the low incline blue and green trails, i was more concerned about people getting hurt that day. not the high speed cruising i was looking for at the time.

i know....sacriledge.....

 

[jaywbigred]

Stratton does get horribly crowded at certain times and on certain holiday weekends. I get to stay there free a couple times each season. Given their propensity for mowing down all moguls the last few years, I only ski here because the price is right.

As for all the Okemo bashing, I have to disagree. They are limited by the hill they are on, but constantly providing seeded moguls on multiple trails more than makes up for it, imho. All the other Okemo positives (family atmosphere, service, etc...) + reliable mogul fields = good times.

Stratton should really take a lesson from Okemo on that one. If the hill your saddled with is lacking in challenge, bump some sh!t up! If they did that, Stratton would become Okemo but with nicer facilities and half an hour closer.

And JerseyJoey is on crack comparing Jupiter and McConkey's to Stratton. Talk about a hater.

 

[2knees]

In all honesty, I never skied it, but did stop by one day to check it out and just didn't like the vibe. Too commercial for my liking.

so basically you have absolutely no basis for forming an opinion and just wanted to follow the crowd. :lol:

 

[JerseyJoey]

Stratton does get horribly crowded at certain times and on certain holiday weekends. I get to stay there free a couple times each season. Given their propensity for mowing down all moguls the last few years, I only ski here because the price is right.

As for all the Okemo bashing, I have to disagree. They are limited by the hill they are on, but constantly providing seeded moguls on multiple trails more than makes up for it, imho. All the other Okemo positives (family atmosphere, service, etc...) + reliable mogul fields = good times.

Stratton should really take a lesson from Okemo on that one. If the hill your saddled with is lacking in challenge, bump some sh!t up! If they did that, Stratton would become Okemo but with nicer facilities and half an hour closer.

And JerseyJoey is on crack comparing Jupiter and McConkey's to Stratton. Talk about a hater.

I wrote this:




I skied Jupiter Bowl. I skied McConkeys. It's average at best. I skied all over that place. I don't care for the ski area. It's an intermediate area at best with intermediate terrain and subpar snowfall for Utah.


So explain to me where I compared Jupiter and McConkeys to Stratton.

 

[marcski]

Everyone take a chill. If you really read all the posts, (I just read through this thread from beginning to end here, I need something to do as I procrastinate at work!), everyone is kind of saying the same thing.

I don't really think anyone is claiming that any of these mountains (ie. stratton, okemo, park city) have super difficult expert terrain compared to other similarly situated ski areas. (as Jersey Joe said, comparing utah resort v. utah resort and vt. resort v. vt. resort).

I do agree with others' sentiment around here. Can you have fun at these areas, of course. They each have their fun, exciting and interesting terrain. Stratton's trees are definitely fun and underrated. In addition, both Okemo and Stratton put out a top-notch snow product. However, personally, I feel that there is more terrain that I enjoy skiing at other areas nearby each of these and that Stratton and Okemo both overgroom for my liking.

In addition, you can not even compare the snowfall totals from the Park City area resorts to those of Big and Little CC's. It doesn't come close. And for that reason, (in addition to for my personal preference, better terrain) despite having skied Park City area including both McConkey's and Jupiter Bowls, I continue to prefer and ski at Alta.

 

[JerseyJoey]

Everyone take a chill. If you really read all the posts, (I just read through this thread from beginning to end here, I need something to do as I procrastinate at work!), everyone is kind of saying the same thing.

I don't really think anyone is claiming that any of these mountains (ie. stratton, okemo, park city) have super difficult expert terrain compared to other similarly situated ski areas. (as Jersey Joe said, comparing utah resort v. utah resort and vt. resort v. vt. resort).

I do agree with others' sentiment around here. Can you have fun at these areas, of course. They each have their fun, exciting and interesting terrain. Stratton's trees are definitely fun and underrated. In addition, both Okemo and Stratton put out a top-notch snow product. However, personally, I feel that there is more terrain that I enjoy skiing at other areas nearby each of these and that Stratton and Okemo both overgroom for my liking.

In addition, you can not even compare the snowfall totals from the Park City area resorts to those of Big and Little CC's. It doesn't come close. And for that reason, (in addition to for my personal preference, better terrain) despite having skied Park City area including both McConkey's and Jupiter Bowls, I continue to prefer and ski at Alta.

Exactly. Very well put.

 

[jaywbigred]

Well, first you said this:

Stratton...The Park City of the east (or is that Okemo?).

Last time I checked, Jupiter and Mconkey's were part of Park City; that would mean that Stratton would need to contain terrain that was the "Jupiter and Mconkey's of the East," however you define it. I would love to hear this argument.

Then Billski asked you

are you talking about the hill or the resort?
The US Ski & Snowboard team has its headquarters there.

And you responded

The terrain itself. Very Okemo/Stratton like. Not really the stuff I go out to Utah for. Their snowfall is also quite a bit less than BCC and LCC.

That sounds like you are comparing mountain-to-mountain, and terrain-to-terrain. so, when you ask

So explain to me where I compared Jupiter and McConkeys to Stratton.

, I would say I just did. You compared the "the terrain itself" and Jupiter and McConkey's are certainly part of PC's terrain.

You also said,

I skied Jupiter Bowl. I skied McConkeys. It's average at best. I skied all over that place. I don't care for the ski area. It's an intermediate area at best with intermediate terrain and subpar snowfall for Utah.

I think you might simply be making the mistake of thinking "Stratton=Intermediate Resort, and Park City=Intermediate Resort, so they are therefore comparable, because they are both Intermediate Resorts." This is like what little kids do when trying to compare a blue square at one resort to a blue square at another, for bragging rights, ignoring that trail ratings are based on inter-resort comparisons, not intra-resort.

Then marcski gave you credit for saying something you did not:

(as Jersey Joe said, comparing utah resort v. utah resort and vt. resort v. vt. resort).

If you had actually done what Marcski incorrectly gave you credit for, i.e. stating that "compared to <more difficult Utah Resort>, Park City is an intermediate resort, just like, compared to <more difficult Vermont Resort>, Stratton is an intermediate resort," your entire point would have made more sense. But you did not, you said

The terrain itself. Very Okemo/Stratton like. Not really the stuff I go out to Utah for

:blink:


So the only utah-utah comparison you made was of the snow in Park City proper, compared to BCC and LCC (regarding which you are, of course, correct).

Lastly, this is just a d-bag comment, imho.

Don't tell me where I have and haven't skied!! How would you know the first thing about me and where I've skied? Your know-it-all attitude can really be trying sometimes Geoff.

No wonder the rest of the country hates people from Jersey.:flame:

 

[JerseyJoey]

Well, first you said this:

Last time I checked, Jupiter and Mconkey's were part of Park City; that would mean that Stratton would need to contain terrain that was the "Jupiter and Mconkey's of the East," however you define it. I would love to hear this argument.

Then Billski asked you

And you responded

That sounds like you are comparing mountain-to-mountain, and terrain-to-terrain. so, when you ask

, I would say I just did. You compared the "the terrain itself" and Jupiter and McConkey's are certainly part of PC's terrain.

You also said,


I think you might simply be making the mistake of thinking "Stratton=Intermediate Resort, and Park City=Intermediate Resort, so they are therefore comparable, because they are both Intermediate Resorts." This is like what little kids do when trying to compare a blue square at one resort to a blue square at another, for bragging rights, ignoring that trail ratings are based on inter-resort comparisons, not intra-resort.

Then marcski gave you credit for saying something you did not:



If you had actually done what Marcski incorrectly gave you credit for, i.e. stating that "compared to <more difficult Utah Resort>, Park City is an intermediate resort, just like, compared to <more difficult Vermont Resort>, Stratton is an intermediate resort," your entire point would have made more sense. But you did not, you said :blink:


So the only utah-utah comparison you made was of the snow in Park City proper, compared to BCC and LCC (regarding which you are, of course, correct).

Lastly, this is just a d-bag comment, imho.




No wonder the rest of the country hates people from Jersey.:flame:

Again, where did I compare Jupiter and McConkeys to Stratton? Need some more straws to grasp at? You can twist it anyway you want (which you have already done) but nowhere did I compare Jupiter and McConkeys to Stratton.

You were the one who made the comparison, not me. You've actually made it twice in this post alone.

 

[jaywbigred]

Here, let me give you a simplified, Cliff's Notes metaphor. Maybe that is more your reading level:

JJ: Book A is just like Book B.

JBR: But Book A is half poetry, and Book B has no poetry. They aren't really comparable.

JJ: Tell me where I compared the poetry in Book A to Book B????????

There is no grasping at straws. McConkey's and Jupiter are subsets of the overarching group of trails and areas that make-up the "Terrain at Park City." You directly compared the "Terrain at Park City" to the "Terrain at Stratton." Thus, you were comparing McConkey's and Jupiter to SOMETHING at Stratton. You didn't exclude them from the comparison.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Jersey Joey is hilarious..

 

[JerseyJoey]

Here, let me give you a simplified, Cliff's Notes metaphor. Maybe that is more your reading level:

JJ: Book A is just like Book B.

JBR: But Book A is half poetry, and Book B has no poetry. They aren't really comparable.

JJ: Tell me where I compared the poetry in Book A to Book B????????

There is no grasping at straws. McConkey's and Jupiter are subsets of the overarching group of trails and areas that make-up the "Terrain at Park City." You directly compared the "Terrain at Park City" to the "Terrain at Stratton." Thus, you were comparing McConkey's and Jupiter to SOMETHING at Stratton. You didn't exclude them from the comparison.

I was comparing Jupiter and McConkeys to NOTHING at Stratton. I was comparing Park City Mountain Resort to Stratton. I never said anything about this trail at PC vs this trail at Stratton. My comparison is that they are both intermediate level ski areas. Again, you are twisting my words. Why do you do this? Is it because you don't like New Jersey?

 

[jaywbigred]

You compared the terrain at the 2 mountains, directly, when you said "The terrain itself. Very Okemo/Stratton like." At this point, if you still don't understand how comparing "Group A to Group B" inherently means comparing "the things comprising Group A to the things comprising Group B," then I am going to stop trying to show you the extremely simple logic behind the concept.

And the reason I am involved in the thread at all is that I am from Jersey, proud of it, and people who act like you do embarass the hell out of me.

 

[billski]

Did you guys major in rhetoric in college?
Too many words for me
Let's get back to shredding and skiing....

 

[Sky]

Is this the Stratton nooz thread?

*SMIRK*

 

[JerseyJoey]

And the reason I am involved in the thread at all is that I am from Jersey, proud of it, and people who act like you do embarass the hell out of me.

Glad to know I represent the entire state of NJ.

Where in Jersey are you from? Paterson? Clifton? Bergenfield? Newark?

 

[Glenn]

Glad to know I represent the entire state of NJ.

Where in Jersey are you from? Paterson? Clifton? Bergenfield? Newark?

E: None of the above, Hackensack