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I was talking to the manager of the ski shop in the lodge a few years ago and the logo wear was already banned in schools because of the name. Its a shame. There is such ski history there.
Of course someone complained that is how it starts. Good thing they didn’t have a Lincoln Bust at the mountain that would be gone as well. People need to get a life….
 

deadheadskier

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Not that I have much for comparison for construction of bridges that size today, but 5 years is fast? (Construction started in 2013 and the 2nd span opened in 2018). Only took a little over 3 years to build the original...

Admittedly, I've only started traveling down there in regularity since 2017. But definitely at least once a year prior to then.

Seemed faster. Like 2-3 years or so. My bad
 

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Yes, I saw him interviewed about it years ago. He wanted to honor his father. I will always call it the Tappan Zee. It is a damn nice bridge though. NYS did a good job.
I moved from that area years ago and went over the new TZB for the first time about 3 weeks ago. It is a very nice bridge and a big upgrade from the old one.
 

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the old tpz had chunks of concrete falling into the hudson and was a horrific accident waiting to happen. i like the look of modern bridges, and i'm too lazy to google, but i suspect the same engineers/designers have been involved with the cuomo bridge, the kosciuzko brige on the BQE, the big dig stuff in boston, and a bunch of others. very similar designs to the suspension systems. groovy looking. lit up nice and multi-colored at night.
 

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Everyone I know calls it the Tappan Zee Bridge. Never heard anyone refer to by the "new" name.
The old Tappan Zee Bridge was technically the The Governor Malcolm Wilson Tappan Zee Bridge but no one ever referred to it as the Malcolm Wilson bridge.
 

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The old Tappan Zee Bridge was technically the The Governor Malcolm Wilson Tappan Zee Bridge but no one ever referred to it as the Malcolm Wilson bridge.

The "Governor Malcolm Wilson" part was only added in 1994 (ironically by Mario Cuomo).
 

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Sometimes I use the Ed Koch Queensborough 59th Street Bridge to avoid tolls on the Triborough Bridge is Now the Robert F. Kennedy Bridge Bridge.
 

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Yes, I saw him interviewed about it years ago. He wanted to honor his father. I will always call it the Tappan Zee. It is a damn nice bridge though. NYS did a good job.

I thought the Cuomo family was cancelled? 👿

They did build it very quickly. Big sections built offsite and barged in. Huge crane, so big they had to reserve it years in advance and it came from a job in the Pacific. Traffic still backs up there but not qui9te as bad as it did before.

A ski club friend of ours who is a NYC lawyer told me there is an exploratory committee looking into what it would cost to change the name back to the Tappan Zee. A lot of older highway signs still point the way towards the Tappan Zee when you get a bit away from the bridge.

Interesting story about why the bridge was built where it was built and not a mile closer to NYC where the Hudson is 3/4 mile wide as opposed to the 3-mile span.
 

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Beacon Newburg bridge is much prettier fwiw!!!

? I can't tell if this is serious or sarcasm... If serious, in what way? Maybe the surrounding area is more scenic, but the bridge itself was pretty rusty looking the last time I drove over it.
 

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Got me wondering why anyone would build a bridge over the widest point:

Doig interviewed some of the key government officials involved before they died. And he found out why the Tappan Zee Bridge was built where it was. The answer? Money. The bridge, remember, was a centerpiece of a gigantic highway system. And tolls on the bridge were going to raise a lot of money. Governor Dewey wanted that money to help pay for the rest of the thruway. And - here's the catch - if he had let the bridge be built further south, where the river narrows, it would have been in Port Authority territory and the Port Authority, not the state of New York, would have gotten the revenue. Port Authority's territory weirdly is defined as a big circle centered around, what else, the Statue of Liberty.

 
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