Sundown: Mogul Plan

[BushMogulMaster]

From what I'm told, best bump ski on the market is the F17. Expensive, yes. But the skis are hand made in Italy, as opposed to machine made in China. I'm hoping to ski a pair this season and then give you all a first-hand report. But suffice it to say that seven of the US mogul team members are on F17s, along with pros across the world.

Buy 'em at www.mogulskiing.net/hart_skis.html for the lowest price on the internet!

***Just figured I'd throw a bit of free advertising into this thread!

 

[Big Game]

Damn they know how to run a hill. Here's hoping Powder Ridge ends up with the same love.

 

[downhill04]

OK I’m definitely getting bump skis today and I’m going to pick up that one day per week pass for Sundown before the 31st. I will let you know tomorrow what skis I end up with.

Greg you are killing my wallet today :wink:

Game on!!!!!!

 

[bvibert]

Damn they know how to run a hill. Here's hoping Powder Ridge ends up with the same love.

I haven't heard anything recently, but the last I heard it didn't sound too good for Powder Ridge.

 

[Greg]

OK I’m definitely getting bump skis today and I’m going to pick up that one day per week pass for Sundown before the 31st. I will let you know tomorrow what skis I end up with.

Greg you are killing my wallet today :wink:

Game on!!!!!!

Buh-ha-ha-ha-ha! :evil: My cult of Sundown mogul madness is growing!

Resistance is futile... :lol:

 

[MrMagic]

ill be at sundown tonight, i will relay any sundown-lowdown if i hear anything good

 

[downhill04]

Buh-ha-ha-ha-ha! :evil: My cult of Sundown mogul madness is growing!

Resistance is futile... :lol:

Well one item checked off the list and one to go. I just bought a pair of left over Dynastar trouble makers. They are a lot skinnier than the public enemies that I usually ski on. I have a friend who owns Ski Haus in Brewster NY. He talked me into then and said they are a good ski for bumps. I got a good deal too seeing as they were a left over ski.

Now I just need to get that pass.

When I get home and the wife sees me pulling a new pair of skis out of the car I’m going to say “Greg made me do it. Blame him.”

 

[deadheadskier]

From what I'm told, best bump ski on the market is the F17. Expensive, yes. But the skis are hand made in Italy, as opposed to machine made in China. I'm hoping to ski a pair this season and then give you all a first-hand report. But suffice it to say that seven of the US mogul team members are on F17s, along with pros across the world.

Buy 'em at www.mogulskiing.net/hart_skis.html for the lowest price on the internet!

***Just figured I'd throw a bit of free advertising into this thread!

question on the Harts....

why the slightly bigger side cut on the shorter boards?

 

[BushMogulMaster]

question on the Harts....

why the slightly bigger side cut on the shorter boards?

Good question.

The sidecut is designed as such to allow initiation of the edge more quickly in the bumps so that your turns are more efficient (i.e., less sliding). They aren't designed to carve in the sense that a slalom or GS ski is designed, but rather for quick edge to edge transfer and initiation for a smooth mogul turn.

As to the reasoning for more sidecut on shorter boards, I'm not sure but I will look into it.

 

[deadheadskier]

Good question.

The sidecut is designed as such to allow initiation of the edge more quickly in the bumps so that your turns are more efficient (i.e., less sliding). They aren't designed to carve in the sense that a slalom or GS ski is designed, but rather for quick edge to edge transfer and initiation for a smooth mogul turn.

As to the reasoning for more sidecut on shorter boards, I'm not sure but I will look into it.

I guess the reason I ask is that in seems counter intuitive to me, i.e. one would think the longer boards would have a touch more side cut to help initiate the turn.

 

[bvibert]

Well one item checked off the list and one to go. I just bought a pair of left over Dynastar trouble makers. They are a lot skinnier than the public enemies that I usually ski on. I have a friend who owns Ski Haus in Brewster NY. He talked me into then and said they are a good ski for bumps. I got a good deal too seeing as they were a left over ski.

Now I just need to get that pass.

When I get home and the wife sees me pulling a new pair of skis out of the car I’m going to say “Greg made me do it. Blame him.”

Those look sweet! I like the graphics. What's the dimensions on them?

 

[mondeo]

I guess the reason I ask is that in seems counter intuitive to me, i.e. one would think the longer boards would have a touch more side cut to help initiate the turn.

So I'm not the only one who noticed that...

 

[downhill04]

Those look sweet! I like the graphics. What's the dimensions on them?

They are 175's. I'm not sure the actual measurement for the width, but they are a lot skinnier than my Pub E's. They are very flexible to.

 

[Greg]

Those look sweet! I like the graphics. What's the dimensions on them?

They are 175's. I'm not sure the actual measurement for the width, but they are a lot skinnier than my Pub E's. They are very flexible to.

Actually, they look to be a 2006 Dynastar Nothin' But Trouble:

http://www.evogear.com/outlet/skis/dynastar-nothin-but-trouble-2006-2.aspx

So the dimensions are 112-78-102. Kinda like a slightly narrower Legend. Not a ton of sidecut, supposed to be pretty soft, and twin tipped. I think they will work very well in the bumps as well as on other part of the mountian. Enjoy!

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

From what I'm told, best bump ski on the market is the F17. Expensive, yes. But the skis are hand made in Italy, as opposed to machine made in China. I'm hoping to ski a pair this season and then give you all a first-hand report. But suffice it to say that seven of the US mogul team members are on F17s, along with pros across the world.

Buy 'em at www.mogulskiing.net/hart_skis.html for the lowest price on the internet!

***Just figured I'd throw a bit of free advertising into this thread!

Not trying to be a PIA, but, is your opinion on the F17 colored by your site's partnership with Hart skis? Or, did you seek out a partnership with Hart because of their quality product?

 

[Greg]

Not trying to be a PIA, but, is your opinion on the F17 colored by your site's partnership with Hart skis? Or, did you seek out a partnership with Hart because of their quality product?

I don't have a problem with BMM doing some shilling here. If they were race skis, I'd ban his ass though. :lol:

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Not trying to be a PIA, but, is your opinion on the F17 colored by your site's partnership with Hart skis? Or, did you seek out a partnership with Hart because of their quality product?

I assure you I wouldn't just go on their word. However, I do trust the opinion of the US team members who are 100% sold on the ski.

As I said, I'll hopefully be skiing a pair of the boards this season, and will gladly provide a 100% honest opinion. However, based on the construction of the ski, and the fact the they are selling lots of pros on it, I trust that it really is that good.

FWIW, I initiated contact with Hart, not vise-versa. I was informed that they may have had some interest in partnering with someone online, so I took the initiative.


Thanks, Greg. If I was advertising race skis... I'd ban myself!

 

[severine]

Actually, they look to be a 2006 Dynastar Nothin' But Trouble:

http://www.evogear.com/outlet/skis/dynastar-nothin-but-trouble-2006-2.aspx

So the dimensions are 112-78-102. Kinda like a slightly narrower Legend. Not a ton of sidecut, supposed to be pretty soft, and twin tipped. I think they will work very well in the bumps as well as on other part of the mountian. Enjoy!

Like my Maries, which one of the Divas who went to mogul camp this summer was told would be good for bumps. (Well, "good" not "great mogul ski"... you know what I mean...)

 

[Greg]

Like my Maries, which one of the Divas who went to mogul camp this summer was told would be good for bumps. (Well, "good" not "great mogul ski"... you know what I mean...)

Jay's a ripper. He'll get them to ski great. At some point, it’s not the tools, it’s the craftsman...

 

[downhill04]

Jay's a ripper. He'll get them to ski great. At some point, it’s not the tools, it’s the craftsman...

You must be confusing me with another AZer. I'm just an old man trying to keep up with the damn whipper snappers. Oh to be 18 again