Sundown Moguls

[powhunter]

So they still plan on opening with seeded bumps on stinger?? Any plans to put a kicker into the mix??

steveo

 

[bvibert]

My sources tell me that there will be bumps on Stinger, skier's right, down to where it opens up and flattens out. Hopefully with some table tops on the flatter section.

When they move over to Temptor I hope that we can get them to incorporate some sort of kicker into them somewhere.

 

[gmcunni]

i think a kicker simply makes sense. doesn't have to be a big one but something to help out those of us that need to work on air.

a little pop with a decent landing is all we'd need. can't be any more dangerous than the stuff that gets put up in the park.

 

[Beast_Ed]

Let me know when Gunbarrel bumps up - thanks

 

[MR. evil]

We also only need a kicker on one side of the trail so that those that don't want to hit the kicker can have a longer line of moguls. Personally I will be hitting the kicker as much as possible. I need all the practice I can get.

Fwiw the kickers on GB for the comp were real nice!

 

[Greg]

Personally, I think the "steep" section on Temptor should only be bumps outside of prepping for the comp. It's so short as it is. When the kickers go in, it really disrupts the run. Yeah, I guess you could do one side, but I still think it's better to just leave it all bumped in case the best line sets up on the kicker side. I would prefer to see table top type jumps on the upper and/or lower flats.

 

[bvibert]

I'd rather see a kicker up in the bumps, only on one side.

 

[gmcunni]

I'd rather see a kicker up in the bumps, only on one side.

I'm with B. lines develop where people ski... if people don't want to ski the kicker the line will be down the other side of the trail. if people want to ski both then we'll have 2 great lines!!

 

[Greg]

lines develop where people ski...

Disagreed. The bump lines, especially mid-winter, are pretty much determined by the seeding job. It actually amazes me how much bumps don't really change that much mid-winter, unless there's an epic dump. Which, of course, we'll get many of this year. :lol:

 

[deadheadskier]

I was always under the impression that putting a kicker in a bump field creates a liability issue for ski areas as it's not 'freestyle' terrain. At least that's what I've read in previous discussions as to why areas have huge 70 foot tabletops, yet X off kickers from previous competitions or team practice set ups.

 

[deadheadskier]

The above thought was the motivation for the following thread:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/53783-would-you-pay-ski-mogul-course.html

 

[bvibert]

A kicker in the bumps is no more dangerous than any of the features in a terrain park. Mark it as another type of terrain park and I don't see the difference.

 

[deadheadskier]

I don't either. Just the response I've received when asking why they don't have kickers set up on seeded bump runs, which they should have at EVERY mountain

 

[gmcunni]

Disagreed. The bump lines, especially mid-winter, are pretty much determined by the seeding job. It actually amazes me how much bumps don't really change that much mid-winter, unless there's an epic dump. Which, of course, we'll get many of this year. :lol:

STFU. B and me want a kicker, end of story.

 

[mondeo]

Overshooting a landing zone in a bump field is a recipe for a major knee injury, or concussion and broken eye socket. If you overshoot in a terrain park, most often the landing will suck but you can get through it because you're still not landing on the upslope of the next jump.

Now if you simply extend the landing zone in bump runs so that no one will ever overshoot, chances of injury are probably the same for similar size jumps.

Landings are also harder to maintain where you cant fit a groomer.

 

[deadheadskier]

I'm sorry, I don't buy the argument that the injury risk is higher in the bumps, even with the upslope. The kids in the terrain parks are often 20 feet in the air and traveling at a much faster rate of speed on impact.

 

[gmcunni]

I'm sorry, I don't buy the argument that the injury risk is higher in the bumps, even with the upslope. The kids in the terrain parks are often 20 feet in the air and traveling at a much faster rate of speed on impact.

agreed and if the kicker is anywhere but the top u actually have to ski the bumps to get it it and that weeds out those not worthy.

 

[mondeo]

I'm sorry, I don't buy the argument that the injury risk is higher in the bumps, even with the upslope. The kids in the terrain parks are often 20 feet in the air and traveling at a much faster rate of speed on impact.

Absolute speed and height aren't important, it's the component of velocity perpendicular to the ground upon impact that is. Crashing on a 20 degree downslope is a whole lot different than on a 20 degree upslope.

 

[2knees]

Absolute speed and height aren't important, it's the component of velocity perpendicular to the ground upon impact that is.

go sit in effin timeout for even trying to make this sound complicated.

god damn.

 

[Beast_Ed]

I'd pay extra if each ski area would blow a little snow on the bump runs overnight, so I can rip freshy fresh the next day. I just need 3 to 4" of cover, fresh each day.

Can they do that for me? If so, where do I send my check!!!

B-Stead