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Mad river glenn is the mecca of skiing to a lot of folks in here. The vert is not great. The lifts are slow. The grooming sucks( yes things need to be groomed in the NE with the thaw freeze cycles) The terrain is fine but nothing that you can find at other hills in the area and ski twice as many runs. MRG Ski it if you can.......stand waiting in lift lines and sitting on chairs.
 

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Mad river glenn is the mecca of skiing to a lot of folks in here. The vert is not great. The lifts are slow. The grooming sucks( yes things need to be groomed in the NE with the thaw freeze cycles) The terrain is fine but nothing that you can find at other hills in the area and ski twice as many runs. MRG Ski it if you can.......stand waiting in lift lines and sitting on chairs.



Nice of you to take some of the heat off of GSS with this post....
 

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Mad river glenn is the mecca of skiing to a lot of folks in here. The vert is not great. The lifts are slow. The grooming sucks( yes things need to be groomed in the NE with the thaw freeze cycles) The terrain is fine but nothing that you can find at other hills in the area and ski twice as many runs. MRG Ski it if you can.......stand waiting in lift lines and sitting on chairs.

2K' is "not great?" Jeez. Whiteface has you really spoiled. Do you always ski T2B at Whiteface? What's the vert on the lower/upper lifts?

I usually get in less than 10 runs/day at MRG. That's plenty of skiing for me. The Single is no slower than any other FG lift. In fact, the new Single feels a bit faster to me, but it's probably not. At MRG, it's not about how much vert you can log and generally I am a "get in as many runs as possible" type guy.

MRG's grooming doesn't suck. Grooming in general sucks. You certainly need to pick your days at MRG and the ones I choose are weekdays when lines are negligible. I've also been fortunate enough to have mostly powder conditions on each of my visits (only four).

How many trails at Whiteface are like Paradise or Fall Line? How many Lower Antelopes do you have? Are they comparable in length?
 

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The terrain is fine but nothing that you can find at other hills in the area and ski twice as many runs. MRG Ski it if you can.......stand waiting in lift lines and sitting on chairs.

That sound like bait to me. Ungroom trails are non longer in existent in other places. And yes, that's what makes it fun and challenging. Truth be told, I rather wait till all the powder is gone and the place has bumps with nice lines... can't find that in the majority of place in the east. The only problem for me is that MRG is about 3.5 hours away, sucks to have the quads toasted while making that long ride home.
 

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2K' is "not great?" Jeez. Whiteface has you really spoiled. Do you always ski T2B at Whiteface? What's the vert on the lower/upper lifts?

I usually get in less than 10 runs/day at MRG. That's plenty of skiing for me. The Single is no slower than any other FG lift. In fact, the new Single feels a bit faster to me, but it's probably not. At MRG, it's not about how much vert you can log and generally I am a "get in as many runs as possible" type guy.

MRG's grooming doesn't suck. Grooming in general sucks. You certainly need to pick your days at MRG and the ones I choose are weekdays when lines are negligible. I've also been fortunate enough to have mostly powder conditions on each of my visits (only four).

How many trails at Whiteface are like Paradise or Fall Line? How many Lower Antelopes do you have? Are they comparable in length?


Little WF is 2300 vert. Summit chair is about 1800. I will take you to places at whiteface that will have you wondering why you ever waited 60 chairs to ski a hill.
 

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That sound like bait to me. Ungroom trails are non longer in existent in other places. And yes, that's what makes it fun and challenging. Truth be told, I rather wait till all the powder is gone and the place has bumps with nice lines... can't find that in the majority of place in the east. The only problem for me is that MRG is about 3.5 hours away, sucks to have the quads toasted while making that long ride home.

Powder gone and bumps with nice lines. Yeah I would say that barely ever exists. On the big hills the bumps turn into boiler plate.

HMMM Whiteface has what you decribe
Killington has what you decribe
Stowe has what you decribe
Jay has what you decribe
and so on
 

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I usually get in less than 10 runs/day at MRG. That's plenty of skiing for me. The Single is no slower than any other FG lift. In fact, the new Single feels a bit faster to me, but it's probably not. At MRG, it's not about how much vert you can log and generally I am a "get in as many runs as possible" type guy


I can get to the mountain at noon time and get in more runs. Just saying not picking
 

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Little WF is 2300 vert. Summit chair is about 1800. I will take you to places at whiteface that will have you wondering why you ever waited 60 chairs to ski a hill.

So unless you do T2B at Whiteface (needing at least two chairs, right?), the vert is comparable. I'm sure locals at every mountain know about off map lines that are great. Same holds true for MRG, I'd imagine. When comparing on map terrain, make some comparisons between specific trails at Whiteface and MRG. I never counted chairs, but I would be surprised if I ever waited 60 chairs at MRG. It's possible though, I guess.
 

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I can get to the mountain at noon time and get in more runs. Just saying not picking

That's cool. It is my impression that Whiteface is very uncrowded. No crowds and great terrain is a perfect combo, no doubt. Can't argue with that. My point is I never feel cheated if I only get in 10 runs at MRG.
 

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So unless you do T2B at Whiteface (needing at least two chairs, right?), the vert is comparable. I'm sure locals at every mountain know about off map lines that are great. Same holds true for MRG, I'd imagine. When comparing on map terrain, make some comparisons between specific trails at Whiteface and MRG. I never counted chairs, but I would be surprised if I ever waited 60 chairs at MRG. It's possible though, I guess.

Like you said you dont go there much onthe weekend.

Making comparisons I can not do because to cant remember names at MRG. Recreational hazzard. I would say Makenzie, Empire on Little Whieface compare on the lower mountain to the terrain at MRG. Upper mountain. its hard to compare cause we never level out to get a breath. Its vert top to bottom Cloud and ski are good. They are wide but if you get to the sides you can go through trees and jump off of things. Cloud is a 1800 vert double fall line natural bump run most of the winter. All on map stuff. Off map stuff is to tight for most people to ski. A bumper could make it through but a gs turner will eat bark
 

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Powder gone and bumps with nice lines. Yeah I would say that barely ever exists. On the big hills the bumps turn into boiler plate.

HMMM Whiteface has what you decribe
Killington has what you decribe
Stowe has what you decribe
Jay has what you decribe
and so on

Kilington is grooming more and they don't let the bumps develop. And no they don't let most of their trails bump up like MRG.

The places you list other than Jay grooms most of the trails on a bi daily basis, it doesnt compare. Yeah they leave some trials alone but it still doesn't compare to over half the trails as in MRG.
 

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Kilington is grooming more and they don't let the bumps develop. And no they don't let most of their trails bump up like MRG.

The places you list other than Jay grooms most of the trails on a bi daily basis, it doesnt compare. Yeah they leave some trials alone but it still doesn't compare to over half the trails as in MRG.


After a thaw and then a freeze mad river aint worth a crap. they dont make snow and they dont groom. They can spin it any way they want but the fact remains they are only good a third of the season. The rest they are a chunk of ice
 

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Like you said you dont go there much onthe weekend.

Making comparisons I can not do because to cant remember names at MRG. Recreational hazzard. I would say Makenzie, Empire on Little Whieface compare on the lower mountain to the terrain at MRG. Upper mountain. its hard to compare cause we never level out to get a breath. Its vert top to bottom Cloud and ski are good. They are wide but if you get to the sides you can go through trees and jump off of things. Cloud is a 1800 vert double fall line natural bump run most of the winter. All on map stuff. Off map stuff is to tight for most people to ski. A bumper could make it through but a gs turner will eat bark

Right. Saturdays at MRG are brutal as I understand it, no doubt. Trying to get HPD on board for early April at Whiteface. It would be great to ski with you too.
 

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After a thaw and then a freeze mad river aint worth a crap. they dont make snow and they dont groom. They can spin it any way they want but the fact remains they are only good a third of the season. The rest they are a chunk of ice

They don't try to spin it though. It is what it is. Again, you have to pick your days but when you hit it right, it's great. MRG also does pretty well in snowfall department, remember, at least compared to Iceface. :smash:

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Picking on MRG for the vert and # of runs and speed of the lifts? And comparing it to the big mountains?

It's like picking on Ron Jeremy for being short.
 

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After a thaw and then a freeze mad river aint worth a crap. they dont make snow and they dont groom. They can spin it any way they want but the fact remains they are only good a third of the season. The rest they are a chunk of ice

Yep, that's part of the development and what makes bump skiing most fun. Several years back during one of those thaw/freeze and snow drought seasons, I wiped out along with others on their groomed trails b/c of boilerplate..... their black trails were as stated in the snow report "edgeable". You have to pick you shots on when to ski.
 
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