The 2011-2012 Ski Area Improvement Thread

[Puck it]

Like your touch!

 

[Puck it]

You know something?I have not heard any buzz at all.

I have been hearing things through the grapevine on somethings.

Cannonball motor replacement to get back to full speed without blowing fuses.
Water pumping improvements - I am not sure of what the problem was but they could not run a lot of guns simultaneously this year. Profile guns were running like an old man urinating at times and with the same color.
Possible snowmaking at Mitt and the widening of Baron's for racing. This is the one that I am not confident in.


Fischer Cat glade improvements!

 

[Black Phantom]

I have been hearing things through the grapevine on somethings.

Cannonball motor replacement to get back to full speed without blowing fuses.
Water pumping improvements - I am not sure of what the problem was but they could not run a lot of guns simultaneously this year. Profile guns were running like an old man urinating at times and with the same color.
Possible snowmaking at Mitt and the widening of Baron's for racing. This is the one that I am not confident in.


Fischer Cat glade improvements!

They never should have yanked out the t-bar. Perhaps a Poma instead.

 

[thetrailboss]

Wait...Cannonball doesn't run full speed? That sucks. It also sucks that there is no more "Profile" trail, but then again what do you expect from a place that named one of its glades, "Global Warming Glade?" :blink:

And weren't there two T-bars on the old Profile as well?

 

[mondeo]

Check that mulch and paint. Peak lodge being torn down & prep work, heated gondi maze. New lodge expected to be completed Christmas 2012.

 

[thetrailboss]

Check that mulch and paint. Peak lodge being torn down & prep work, heated gondi maze. New lodge expected to be completed Christmas 2012.

Wow, didn't know that.

http://www.killington.com/winter/beast/blog/authors/tom/killington-resort-announces

 

[deadheadskier]

Wait...Cannonball doesn't run full speed? That sucks. It also sucks that there is no more "Profile" trail, but then again what do you expect from a place that named one of its glades, "Global Warming Glade?" :blink:

And weren't there two T-bars on the old Profile as well?

Profile is still there. They just changed the name to Cannonball

The T bars had their own lift lines, not part of a trail.

 

[thetrailboss]

Profile is still there. They just changed the name to Cannonball

Right, that was what I was saying...the name has changed.

 

[Puck it]

Right, that was what I was saying...the name has changed.

 

[Puck it]

Profile is still there. They just changed the name to Cannonball

The T bars had their own lift lines, not part of a trail.

I thought they were within the footprint of the current trail. If I am not mistaken, but I am going by old pics.

 

[ceo]

Profile/Cannonball was originally the liftline for the Two Upper T-bars, yes. I apparently didn't save the email, but Cannon Guest Services tells me they changed the name to establish "Cannonball" as a stronger part of Cannon's brand identity (or something like that), to go along with the Cannonball Quad and the Cannonball Pub. (This makes me wonder if the loud (and generally excellent) music at the bottom of Cannonball is intentional mountain policy, as opposed to being on the lifties' initiative as I've been assuming.)

A friend of mine whose son is in one of the Franconia Ski Club's race programs tells me they're engaged in a fundraising project to refit the Vista Way - Bypass - PFE - Paulie's Folly route for a downhill race course. (The rumor that was discussed here a couple months ago about a trail between Skylight and Ravine was an earlier iteration of this idea.) Apparently there's a lack of FIS-certifiable downhill courses in the East, and Cannon is one of the few mountains with sufficient consistent vertical. This is based on a conversation in the base lodge about two months ago, so I may be misremembering details.

 

[Puck it]

Wait...Cannonball doesn't run full speed? That sucks. It also sucks that there is no more "Profile" trail, but then again what do you expect from a place that named one of its glades, "Global Warming Glade?" :blink:

And weren't there two T-bars on the old Profile as well?

It has been running like 3/4 or more in speed all year.

I tend to think the Global warming was tongue in cheek.

 

[deadheadskier]

I thought they were within the footprint of the current trail. If I am not mistaken, but I am going by old pics.

I don't remember people skiing down next to me when I rode those T Bars as a kid. It wasn't like the current set up where the Cannonball Express runs right along the side of the trail. There were trees on both sides of the T Bar track if I recall correctly.

 

[Puck it]

Profile/Cannonball was originally the liftline for the Two Upper T-bars, yes. I apparently didn't save the email, but Cannon Guest Services tells me they changed the name to establish "Cannonball" as a stronger part of Cannon's brand identity (or something like that), to go along with the Cannonball Quad and the Cannonball Pub. (This makes me wonder if the loud (and generally excellent) music at the bottom of Cannonball is intentional mountain policy, as opposed to being on the lifties' initiative as I've been assuming.)

A friend of mine whose son is in one of the Franconia Ski Club's race programs tells me they're engaged in a fundraising project to refit the Vista Way - Bypass - PFE - Paulie's Folly route for a downhill race course. (The rumor that was discussed here a couple months ago about a trail between Skylight and Ravine was an earlier iteration of this idea.) Apparently there's a lack of FIS-certifiable downhill courses in the East, and Cannon is one of the few mountains with sufficient consistent vertical. This is based on a conversation in the base lodge about two months ago, so I may be misremembering details.

Close off Vista and PFE and PF which would take Av out too. Not happening. Baron's is what I heard now and adding Snowmaking. I think they all suck.

 

[Puck it]

I don't remember people skiing down next to me when I rode those T Bars as a kid. It wasn't like the current set up where the Cannonball Express runs right along the side of the trail. There were trees on both sides of the T Bar track if I recall correctly.

Sorry, I meant no trail but they went up in a similar line. The plans called for a winding trail like Upper Cannon and Upper Ravine to go in when the chair went in. But the state knew better then ski area designers and as the story in the DOT bulldozers and made Profile.

 

[Cannonball]

Profile/Cannonball was originally the liftline for the Two Upper T-bars, yes. I apparently didn't save the email, but Cannon Guest Services tells me they changed the name to establish "Cannonball" as a stronger part of Cannon's brand identity (or something like that), to go along with the Cannonball Quad and the Cannonball Pub.

I'm sure this is the case. BUT, it's ill-conceived from the outset. The name "Profile" already existed throughout the Mtn (the trail, the lake, etc) and more importantly it referred to the 'profile' of the Old Man in the Mountain.....the FREAK'N State symbol!! So why not call the new (then) lift "Profile lift" and "Profile Pub" etc, etc, etc. And make that the brand identity. An identity that would have appeal throughout New England. Ugh.

God damn it after that rant I gotta go get a new screen name! Hmmmm "Profile" would make for a catchy profile.

 

[ceo]

It might be Avalanche instead of Paulie's; I don't remember. That actually makes more sense; it doesn't cut off any terrain other than Banshee, and there's a bigger finish area at the bottom. Closures would only happen on race days, of course.

I strongly doubt that Baron's has the necessary vertical, even if they started from the top of the knob, and I don't think Taft is anywhere near wide enough, plus there's the small matter of it not being lift-served.

 

[Cannonball]

It might be Avalanche instead of Paulie's; I don't remember. That actually makes more sense; it doesn't cut off any terrain other than Banshee, and there's a bigger finish area at the bottom. Closures would only happen on race days, of course.

I strongly doubt that Baron's has the necessary vertical, even if they started from the top of the knob, and I don't think Taft is anywhere near wide enough, plus there's the small matter of it not being lift-served.

I'd hate to see it for selfish reasons, but it makes a lot of sense. Except for Bypass you would have sustained pitch for an amazing 2K of vertical. All served by the tram with significant lodges at the start and finish. Excellent for racers and spectators. And it would improve their current underutilization of the tram.

 

[Puck it]

I'm sure this is the case. BUT, it's ill-conceived from the outset. The name "Profile" already existed throughout the Mtn (the trail, the lake, etc) and more importantly it referred to the 'profile' of the Old Man in the Mountain.....the FREAK'N State symbol!! So why not call the new (then) lift "Profile lift" and "Profile Pub" etc, etc, etc. And make that the brand identity. An identity that would have appeal throughout New England. Ugh.

God damn it after that rant I gotta go get a new screen name! Hmmmm "Profile" would make for a catchy profile.

FischerCatSkier sounds better to me. What do I know?

 

[Cannonball]

FischerCatSkier sounds better to me. What do I know?

That's an alias I only use for apres hook-ups when the wife's looking the other way.