catsup948
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I like mountains where they glance as you get on or don't bother at all! Not that I'm trying to sneak on but I don't like waiting for anything or anyone when I ski.
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That's quite a sizable investment for a place with 20 lifts.
What is the point of this RFID phenomenon anyway. I've been through the process at Jiminy Peak and Stowe, with that said I probably have 7-10 days on RFID technology.
1. It's a sizable investment
Can't argue with that. Not sure if resorts buy these units outright or lease them.
2. Same labor costs at the lift (the two ticket checkers are now gatekeepers)
Not sure about this - Typically only one person is present with a computer to check scanning and correct any issues.
3. Costs money to train staff
Not sure how much training is really required for this. But, yes, it will costs some money to train staff.
4. Still need people at the ticket windows.
Yes, but significantly less people. Once a RFID pass is purchased, it can be used over and over. Most resort set up either auto-reloading or at least purchase the ticket online without having to go to the ticket window.
5. Same amount of waste.
Not sure about that, would have to guess it would result in a lot less waste, since the cards are reusable.
6. Doesn't benefit the skier, except that they now have to keep track of this minuscule card to save $5 on the next lift ticket
It does benefit skiers, not having to wait in a line to purchase a lift ticket every morning is pretty nice. Plus, resorts typically offer a very significant discount for using the reloading option on the pass.
7. It craps out 1 out of every 15 times (for me anyways).
I've been using these at my local resort and Stowe for years and can't really remember having any issues with my pass. Putting the pass in a upper right breast pocket with nothing else seems to be the best option.
8. The gates are ugly and stupid. Someone else compared it to going on a ride, I'm reminded more of going through a tollbooth.
That screen that the ticket checker is looking at with a RFID system shows your picture as you go through the gate.They seem pretty easy to abuse (maybe easier than a singles line). I've seen people at Crotched, Sugarbush, and Stratton be busted by staff scanning tickets for using someone else's season pass.
I liked that, and it worked well for a small, contained mountain, but that is much more easily abused if you have more than two people in your group.Blue mountain in the Poconos uses RFID and I've never seen anything become an issue. I saw it go down once and they just assumed everyone was legit. Before they implemented the RFID at the lifts, they treated the mountain like an amusement park, which i liked better. They had two large entrance gates outside of their lodges and would scan peoples tickets as they entered the mountain. This meant no ticket checks as lifts as if you were on the hill, you were already scanned.
Blue mountain in the Poconos uses RFID and I've never seen anything become an issue. I saw it go down once and they just assumed everyone was legit. Before they implemented the RFID at the lifts, they treated the mountain like an amusement park, which i liked better. They had two large entrance gates outside of their lodges and would scan peoples tickets as they entered the mountain. This meant no ticket checks as lifts as if you were on the hill, you were already scanned.
Blue mountain in the Poconos uses RFID and I've never seen anything become an issue. I saw it go down once and they just assumed everyone was legit. Before they implemented the RFID at the lifts, they treated the mountain like an amusement park, which i liked better. They had two large entrance gates outside of their lodges and would scan peoples tickets as they entered the mountain. This meant no ticket checks as lifts as if you were on the hill, you were already scanned.
I think the biggest public mountain improvement this year in the East is going on at Sugar Mountain in NC. A new Six Pack and realignment of the former summit lifts to new segments of the mountain. At least someone is spending big bucks somewhere in the East
Looking at the trail map, there are...
Two diamonds, one double diamond, and one intermediate trail from the summit. In the word's of Herbert Morrison... "Oh the humanity!"
This is their trail map: View attachment 17372