The 2011-2012 Ski Area Improvement Thread

[Puck it]

I'd hate to see it for selfish reasons, but it makes a lot of sense. Except for Bypass you would have sustained pitch for an amazing 2K of vertical. All served by the tram with significant lodges at the start and finish. Excellent for racers and spectators. And it would improve their current underutilization of the tram.

I will have to see I can find any maps of the old downhill course that the FIS sanctioned in the early 70's. I think it was using Tram Way though. It is fun trying to catch the next car taking these runs.

 

[Puck it]

That's an alias I only use for apres hook-ups when the wife's looking the other way.

For the cougars? I won't be up tomorrow. I will be there on Saturday at around 10:30. Should I bring a 12 pack?

 

[Cannonball]

There has been a lot of buzz about this "new lift" around the mtn the last couple weeks.


Burke is also installing a 175' tall wind turbine near the summit that will hopefully generate up to 15% of the mtn's power. It will apparently be similar to the one at Bolton.

Just catching up on earlier parts of this thread. So how do the Burke locals feel about this? That old lift sure is painfully slow. On the other hand it results in some excellent powder preservation for a fairly small hill. Bittersweet?

 

[thetrailboss]

Just catching up on earlier parts of this thread. So how do the Burke locals feel about this? That old lift sure is painfully slow. On the other hand it results in some excellent powder preservation for a fairly small hill. Bittersweet?

Bittersweet is a good word. The new lift will make the Burke skiing experience a lot better because folks will see what it has to offer rather than groan about the lift ride. And I think it will have foot rests...which I know people also complain about.

As to the wind turbine, hate to be the NIMBY crowd, but it will look pretty dumb up there. But heck, if it saves money, go for it I guess.

 

[thetrailboss]

For the cougars? I won't be up tomorrow. I will be there on Saturday at around 10:30. Should I bring a 12 pack?

Do cougars drink wine coolers?

 

[Black Phantom]

Do cougars drink wine coolers?

Cougars drink whiskey! Go Bruins:beer:

 

[Cannonball]

For the cougars? I won't be up tomorrow. I will be there on Saturday at around 10:30. Should I bring a 12 pack?

Probably just me & L. Although who knows who'll come out of the woodwork for the last weekend.

Do cougars drink wine coolers?

Cannon cougars drink Boilermakers consisting of a Schlitz tall boy and a Wild Turkey double.

 

[Puck it]

Probably just me & L. Although who knows who'll come out of the woodwork for the last weekend.

Sounds like a 12er just in case.

Cannon cougars drink Boilermakers consisting of a Schlitz tall boy and a Wild Turkey double.

Do they have their teeth still?

 

[cannonist]

Enough about Cannon I'm excited to see what happens at Waterville and I'm a little dismayed I haven't heard anything yet.

 

[4aprice]

Wow, didn't know that.

http://www.killington.com/winter/beast/blog/authors/tom/killington-resort-announces

I will not miss that building at all. Not sure why they need business meeting rooms at the summit. This is where my environmental senses kick in as I hope they do it well and tastefully.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[threecy]

Enough about Cannon I'm excited to see what happens at Waterville and I'm a little dismayed I haven't heard anything yet.

http://www.newenglandskihistory.com/skiareaexpansions/NewHampshire/expansions2011.php

 

[cannonist]

http://www.newenglandskihistory.com/skiareaexpansions/NewHampshire/expansions2011.php

Yes they are doing that, but I'm talking somthing more substansial. It might just be me, but is extending that T bar that much of a big deal?

 

[threecy]

Yes they are doing that, but I'm talking somthing more substansial. It might just be me, but is extending that T bar that much of a big deal?

Last I knew, they haven't applied with the WMNF to do any other projects, so I suspect other work may be limited to facility and snowmaking improvements.

 

[Puck it]

Yes they are doing that, but I'm talking somthing more substansial. It might just be me, but is extending that T bar that much of a big deal?

For racing use?

 

[deadheadskier]

Last I knew, they haven't applied with the WMNF to do any other projects, so I suspect other work may be limited to facility and snowmaking improvements.

Hasn't improving their snowmaking ponds long been at the top of their priority list, but the old owners never made the investment?

Do you know what the Sununu's paid for WV? just curious

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

I will not miss that building at all. Not sure why they need business meeting rooms at the summit. This is where my environmental senses kick in as I hope they do it well and tastefully.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

Big money in weddings and other small convention type things.

 

[mondeo]

Big money in weddings and other small convention type things.

Yep, hopefully they'll bring in revenue quickly with it to turn around and put into a new six pack.

 

[deadheadskier]

Yep, hopefully they'll bring in revenue quickly with it to turn around and put into a new six pack.

don't hold your breath

If that building brings in more than $500K profit in wedding, meeting and seasonal F&B operations each year, I'd be shocked. That's many, many years to fund a $5M lift when you factor in recovering the initial capital investment to build it.

I'd be rooting for a 50 unit slopeside condo development to fund your lift more than the Peak Lodge.

 

[JPTracker]

Its been a long time since I heard any mention of the new Bonaventure lift at Jay Peak. TB mentioned it to start the discussion, but does anybody familiar with the situation have any more info?

From a newsletter I just received from Jay:

This summer we will relocate the poles and electric lines on the Power Line trail to make way for a six-passenger chairlift. This chair will replace the Bonaventure and unload guests at the top of St. George's Prayer. The new lift will be open to visitors for the 2012+13 winter season.

 

[AdironRider]

don't hold your breath

If that building brings in more than $500K profit in wedding, meeting and seasonal F&B operations each year, I'd be shocked. That's many, many years to fund a $5M lift when you factor in recovering the initial capital investment to build it.

I'd be rooting for a 50 unit slopeside condo development to fund your lift more than the Peak Lodge.

Id hold my breath on that one. I haven't worked in Killington F&B, but have seen the financials for other mountains summit restaurants. 1.5 mil in profit for a good summer season is not unheard of.

I will say, that building has been such a shithole for so long that it might take a few years before that stigma is gone.