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The 2011 Red Sox Thread

jlboyell

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glad to see other fans squirm like i do this time of year. grew up 20 min outside of philly, and ill tell you, septembers and octobers have been tough on me since 07. almost easier to just be out of contention... but way less entertaining.
 

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Seems as if they are relying on their hitting to get them out of bad pitching.

Yep....Has most ALWAYS been the situation TB, pretty right on the mark...and when they lose...too many of them have been swinging for the fence...stranding too many, but a team can get its hitting mojo back...but yep..pitching = can never get enough of...
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Yep....Has most ALWAYS been the situation TB, pretty right on the mark...and when they lose...too many of them have been swinging for the fence...stranding too many, but a team can get its hitting mojo back...but yep..pitching = can never get enough of...
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With the starting rotation the Red Sox are putting out there right now, "bad pitching" understates the problem.
 

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I went to bed at the right time. Well that was pretty bad. I knew that when I saw Pap come out on Tuesday night and almost lose that game that he was struggling. I was not surprised, and disappointed, to hear that he lost last night's game.

The Rays wanted it more. They came from a 7-run deficit in the 8th inning to win in extra innings. For me though the Rays are the new Yankees. They have defeated the Sox in big games many times the last few years.
 

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That free throw from the 50 yard line in the 3rd half was awesome. I don't think I've ever seen a horse jump that high, and the way the strikers handled their football bats was magical. If it had gone into penalty time, I don't think the goalie could have taken another shelling from the defense.
 

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The games yesterday kept me on the edge of my seat.
For the Sox Fans, Seriously, I feel bad for you. :(

It isn't the first time. There were a couple of epic meltdowns in the 1970's. There was the blown game 6 in the 1986 world series against the Mets. The Red Sox went 7-20 in September. Starting pitching was pathetic. If they had somehow backed into the playoffs, they would have gotten slaughtered.

Personally, I'm more concerned about the Theo Epstein free agent signing mistakes that look to be turning the Red Sox into the Mets. Lackey and Crawford are going to screw up the team for many years. Adrian Gonzalez vanished when it was crunch time.
 

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How could we savor the sweet taste of victory if not having experienced the utter despair of horrific losing streaks :lol:
 

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Hahahah.

Unreal, truly. From the Globe:

The fact is that these Red Sox - the “Best Team Ever,’’ the team Josh Beckett said could win 100 games, wound up losing 20 of 27 games in September.

Ouch!
 

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I still have that scene replaying in my mind: Shaughnessy getting interviewed on NESN at the start of the rain delay. Shaughnessy saying that Red Sox fans should rest easy tonight because there was no way that the Devil Rays were climbing out of a 7-0 hole.

There you go, curly. New material for your new book on the new curse of the Bambino.
 

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I still have that scene replaying in my mind: Shaughnessy getting interviewed on NESN at the start of the rain delay. Shaughnessy saying that Red Sox fans should rest easy tonight because there was no way that the Devil Rays were climbing out of a 7-0 hole.

There you go, curly. New material for your new book on the new curse of the Bambino.

You remember that as well? I recall the guys on ESPN yesterday confidently saying that the Sox were going to win. Riiiggghhhhttt. Kind of like Joe Buck's statement in the 2003 ALCS that the 'Red Sox were X outs away from going to the World Series.' I said, "now that you said that, they won't now."
 

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Personally, I'm more concerned about the Theo Epstein free agent signing mistakes that look to be turning the Red Sox into the Mets. Lackey and Crawford are going to screw up the team for many years. Adrian Gonzalez vanished when it was crunch time.

yup,

Theo has screwed up literally a half a billion dollars in free agent signings. You've got 300 million in Crawford, Lackey and Drew alone.

If I'm John Henry, Theo is the first to go
 

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yup,

Theo has screwed up literally a half a billion dollars in free agent signings. You've got 300 million in Crawford, Lackey and Drew alone.

If I'm John Henry, Theo is the first to go

I hate to say this but Buck Showalter was right about Theo. (And credit to him and his Orioles: they respected the Game and played tough 'til the end. I cannot fault a team for that.)

I could never understand this hero worship about Theo. Never. As far as I am concerned, the 2004 team was largely assembled by Dan Duquette and the key parts of the 2007 team (Beckett and Lowell) were signed while Theo was skulking around Fenway in a gorilla suit. Of course, he made great signings (Schilling, Ortiz) but that's outweighed by his duds (who's playing SS?, Drew, Lackey, Gagne). And with John Henry's war chest behind you, even an idiot like me is bound to sign a good player every now and then.

I still remember the first Dice-K press conference where Theo was falling all over himself pandering to the Japanese media. I remember him calling Dice-K a "national treasure." I felt sick. How can you say that about someone who hasn't proven himself on the MLB stage? I have a lot of respect for Japanese baseball (I watch it more than I care to admit) but, before Dice-K, I had only one answer every time someone got too moony-eyed about the prospects of a Japanese pitcher dominating in the MLB: Hideo Nomo.

I'm not saying the guy should go. But, I think a less romantic assessment of Theo's baseball talents is in order.
 
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