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The NEW Magic Mountain

ne_skier

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How exactly would someone find any obvious violations by simply looking at a signed affidavit? These affidavits have very little information on them (name, date, signature, some contact info, and a checkbox that says "I agree I met the requirements and followed the rules" essentially). Unless someone signs it as "Mickey Mouse" or fills in 212-555-1234 as their phone number...there's nothing to point out whether someone was truthful or not.
Someone could leave said hotel at Sunday and return the next Saturday
 

KustyTheKlown

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all that means is they checked into a hotel twice in a 10 day period, it doesn't mean they left the state

this is not enforceable. people should abide by the rules or at least the spirit of the rules in the interests of keeping others as safe as possible and allowing skiing and the ski economy to function. but give me a break, Vermont law enforcement isn't going to be wasting time scrupulously pouring over the affidavits from hundreds of hotels and ski areas. get real.
 

cdskier

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all that means is they checked into a hotel twice in a 10 day period, it doesn't mean they left the state

this is not enforceable. people should abide by the rules or at least the spirit of the rules in the interests of keeping others as safe as possible and allowing skiing and the ski economy to function. but give me a break, Vermont law enforcement isn't going to be wasting time scrupulously pouring over the affidavits from hundreds of hotels and ski areas. get real.

Exactly...on all points.

I think the most anyone doing any checking of affidavits would/could do is ensure the hotel/ski area actually simply has one on file for every person that stayed or skied there.
 

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What I’ve realized at this point is that Vermont’s strategy is to basically deter as many out of staters as possible, which has worked to an extent. There is no way to enforce all of their guidelines, but with what they’ve done, they’ve deterred a portion of out of staters, and encouraged other out of staters to stay home. Of course there’s always going to be that college kid that had a party on Friday night and drove up on Saturday morning, but my hope is that with masks, googles, gloves and limited time in the lodge, even if they had it, they probably wouldn’t spread it. I also think that a lot of people are still going up, but being responsible and staying home except for essential trips to the grocery store etc.
 

slatham

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What I’ve realized at this point is that Vermont’s strategy is to basically deter as many out of staters as possible, which has worked to an extent. There is no way to enforce all of their guidelines, but with what they’ve done, they’ve deterred a portion of out of staters, and encouraged other out of staters to stay home. Of course there’s always going to be that college kid that had a party on Friday night and drove up on Saturday morning, but my hope is that with masks, googles, gloves and limited time in the lodge, even if they had it, they probably wouldn’t spread it. I also think that a lot of people are still going up, but being responsible and staying home except for essential trips to the grocery store etc.

As I've said before, this will be the definition of negative selection. The people who have followed the rules and have been careful will not come to VT due to rules. Those who don't wear masks and don't give a F*#@ will be on first chair (though hopefully not at Magic). I hope I am wrong......
 

KustyTheKlown

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i agree that you'll prob be seeing a lot of that at the epic and ikons, but much less so (i think) at the independents. it also remains to be seen how the resorts go about enforcing masks and things. i read yesterday someplace in BC pulled season passes over mask compliance already. imo, good.
 

JimG.

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As I've said before, this will be the definition of negative selection. The people who have followed the rules and have been careful will not come to VT due to rules. Those who don't wear masks and don't give a F*#@ will be on first chair (though hopefully not at Magic). I hope I am wrong......
Indeed; throw away the wheat and keep the chaff.
 
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