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[ne_skier]

If I had to guess, something to do with the "precipitation of liquid form" predicted to fall on Wednesday. The question is to what extent it will damage the 5-9" of snow currently predicted for tomorrow night (this is according to opensnow, I am not a meteorologist)

 

[Bubba]

If I had to guess, something to do with the "precipitation of liquid form" predicted to fall on Wednesday. The question is to what extent it will damage the 5-9" of snow currently predicted for tomorrow night (this is according to opensnow, I am not a meteorologist)

I’m seeing 5-6 of front end snow Tuesday into Wednesday. Hoping that will help solidify a base for storms to come. What are others seeing?
In terms of opening Th-F, I bet that is more of a business decision. Continue to allocate resources to get the summit open rather than staff an open Mtn for a handful of pass holders who will show up. Not saying I agree, but I think it’s less about weather and more about dollar bills.

 

[Newpylong]

It will be a net gain in my mind, and just the type of snow we need. However, I would take 8" of more blower just fine, but it's too much to ask for any storm to not be cement that turns to rain anymore.

 

[chuckstah]

is there some reason they aren't open thursday 1/11?

Current report says maybe for Thursday, depending on Wed weather and potential power issues. I already got my storm text from my utility warning of potential issues. They will be open Friday

 

[machski]

I’m seeing 5-6 of front end snow Tuesday into Wednesday. Hoping that will help solidify a base for storms to come. What are others seeing?
In terms of opening Th-F, I bet that is more of a business decision. Continue to allocate resources to get the summit open rather than staff an open Mtn for a handful of pass holders who will show up. Not saying I agree, but I think it’s less about weather and more about dollar bills.

5-6" likely won't be enough to = net gainer given the liquid equivalents I'm seeing (as in 1-2" pure liquid after that initial 6" of white). The only area with a true shot of net gain is the mountains of Maine where the cold will be bottled up the greatest and longest. Seeing 1 foot + possible on the front, but they better get it. Also seeing liquid equivalent for the entire storm in the 2.5-3" potential up that way.

 

[slatham]

Current forecasts from NWS and pro team they use shows 4-8” front side snow. That will be key. Another key will be how long does it precip non-frozen and stay warm? Some models have snow changing at 1am or so and preceip mostly over by 8am and temps cooling then and down to freezing by evening. With undisturbed current snow pack, this could be a good net gainer that sets up a good portion of natural terrain. Of course it would be nice if the storm on Saturday cooperated.

 

[NYDB]

Current report says maybe for Thursday, depending on Wed weather and potential power issues. I already got my storm text from my utility warning of potential issues. They will be open Friday

right. they changed the website after I posted. they originally had they'd be re opening Friday. No mention of thurs.

I get there is a storm, but the timing on that is tues-wed. high winds ending Wed.

I figured if you only have provided 2 days of lift serviced skiing by mid Jan you may want to stick with your operating schedule.

Even if there are only 6 passholders lapping 2 trails off green I think they should make every effort to be open.

 

[zoomzoom]

does the relocated have hydraulic tension?

 

[skithetrees]

Current forecasts from NWS and pro team they use shows 4-8” front side snow. That will be key. Another key will be how long does it precip non-frozen and stay warm? Some models have snow changing at 1am or so and preceip mostly over by 8am and temps cooling then and down to freezing by evening. With undisturbed current snow pack, this could be a good net gainer that sets up a good portion of natural terrain. Of course it would be nice if the storm on Saturday cooperated.

I am hoping it trends more sleet and freezing rain over rain and then sets up rock hard. They will need to work a resurfacing mini miracle for the weekend, but that rock hard base will mean a lot of stuff in play with only a foot more of snow. Fingers crossed.

 

[ne_skier]

Snow report this morning:

Jan 10th 8am: The snowstorm peaked out around 11pm last night with about 8″ at the base stake, probably a little bit more up top. The switchover to r**n has continued into the early morning but temperatures have peaked at 41 degrees so not as warm as predicted but about an 1.5″ of r**n. From the early looks of it, this storm will be net gainer and positive for the base around the mountain as there is 4-5″ of wet snow still at base snow stake. As temperatures drop thoughout the day into the night, when freezing will occur, this wet denser base should start to dry out and freeze up to lock it in on top of the prior 6-8″ snowfall from Sunday.

Thursday we will open at 9am with the Green Chair skiing Wand to Show Off and begin to assess with Ski Patrol the conditions after tonight’s freeze-up on the all-natural terrain for possible trail expansion Thursday, Friday and into the weekend. Snowmaking may be possible to resume for Thursday Night as well up top as well as we look to add the Red Summit lift for MLK weekend!

 

[NYDB]

these 2 snain storms should lock in a solid base for future snows. Especially after sat night.

I'd expect Saturday not to be half bad in the rain after a few wet inches of snow, depending on what they can open up.

Sun and Mon firm and fast.

At least it stays cold for a while after. Finally a solid snowmaking stretch.

 

[AdironRider]

Man even Whaleback got their chairlift running before Magic, who can't even guarantee Red by MLK.

 

[drjeff]

Man even Whaleback got their chairlift running before Magic, who can't even guarantee Red by MLK.

Right now, even a simple "Mother nature certainly hasn't made it easy on our operations the last 6 months, BUT we also made some choices that should of been different along the way which also has contributed to where our operations are at right now as well...." would likely start the needed mending process with their core crew of customers, so many of whom may have finally met the tipping point from where the often continued excuses can't be just tolerated as the norm anymore to earn their business in the future.

I mean how many people, even their diehard supporters, actually believe them when the say that the Black will spin and carry folks up the hill this season anymore? That alone speaks volumes as to what has happened to their credibility. And that is too bad

 

[Black Phantom]

There is practically zero chance that lift will run this season.

 

[ne_skier]

The question is, will they be suggesting the lift will open for President's Day Weekend, or will they concede that it won't run this season but "just needs a few final touches" that will definitely be done in May/June and not Christmas week with snow on the ground?

 

[NYDB]

how long did the last engineering fix on a sheave assembly take?

a year and a half?

 

[ne_skier]

That one involved custom-making combination assemblies from scratch. I'd hope that this issue is much more simple, seeing as that one took over one season if I recall correctly

 

[skithetrees]

The question is, will they be suggesting the lift will open for President's Day Weekend, or will they concede that it won't run this season but "just needs a few final touches" that will definitely be done in May/June and not Christmas week with snow on the ground?

Already admitting not this weekend. But the “sometime in January” is laughable. This is like that “two weeks” joke where a shop/vendor says it will be ready in “two weeks” for six months. But in this case, the “two weeks” has been 3 years.

As drjeff said, I would respect them a whole lot more at this point if they owned up to their issues and offered a solid plan to avoid repeating them going forward. Shit happens, I get it. But when the same shit happens year after year, it’s no longer “bad luck” and people stop believing you are going to do better next time.

 

[ThatGuy]

The longer the saga goes on the more @hughconway is vindicated

 

[NYDB]

At least Magic has built up a ton of goodwill with the lift contractor. I’m sure they’ll stay on this spring to completion.